North Korea over the whole entire earth. Indoctrination camps, slave labor. Some people "more equal" than others.
JW Paradise = hell.
at a recent meeting there was a watchtower article about life in paradise.
they were saying that even when witnesses finally get there they will still be under the strict instructions from the elders and gb.
they may be given jobs that they will find unpleasant, also the preaching work will be ongoing because of all the resurrected people who need to learn about why they are given another chance.
North Korea over the whole entire earth. Indoctrination camps, slave labor. Some people "more equal" than others.
JW Paradise = hell.
im asking for you guys help in a phase im going through right now.
im sure it’ll pass but id appreciate your advice..
born in, my family consists of mum, dad, two brothers and two sisters.
Pale.emperor it took me about 2 years after leaving to stop feeling guilty about refuting their stupid rules and habits. And that was AFTER doing full research on their history and doctrine. The percentage of "witness" still in me faded slowly, it will for you too.
i hope you are all well.
i haven't posted in a little while.
i've just been adjusting and enjoying my new life outside of the org.
I'm so sorry. ...hopefully she will think more on it, and what you said about beliefs and shunning, and miss her son and grandkids, and let herself ease up. That probably won't happen but it might. Sometimes when someone close starts doubting, that lets us doubt more easily too.
I hope your husband can deal with this ok. Not fun, or natural, to lose your mom.
in the august broadcast, david splane is shown in a morning worship video.
i just wanted to focus on the end of the video, were he has this to say:.
the governing body loves to get together and discuss the bible.
Londo, the "progressive" line made me laugh, too. Oh they are SO progressive, not letting women hold microphones or be in charge of anything, or wear pant suits.
hi new to forum and first post!
i have been reading posts on and off for years.
still fighting my "doubts" and struggling internally, my family is active and the wife knows nothing of my late night website reads here.
It was years after actually LEAVING that I had the courage to post on a site like this. Huge step for sure, bunker. Welcome, buddy!!!
Strangest thing to me that a symbol of life because life is so sacred could be more sacred than life itself. It's idolatry, isn't it!?!
Yes I recall others talking about that rule but they know more details than I do, so I will let them answer.
there appear to be some people who are of the mistaken opinion that endlessly clicking the like or dislike button 20x will mean 20x votes.. it doesn't !!!.
only one vote is ever counted.
1 user, 1 vote, each post.
After stifling my opinions (usually strong ones) for the majority of my life when I was a witness....heck, I just like to vote. Please don't take it away Simon!
ok, i am reading through the book the watchtower and the masons by fritz spring meier which i am finding a fascinating read; and discovered that judge rutherford published the book 'cause of death'.
what is incredible is the book cover.
the book was published in 1932 which would have been a little bit more eye catching back then.
The painting of Eve is so very odd. Her head looks like a 6 year old's. She has NO neck. Her upper body looks 11. Her lower body looks 35. Had the person who painted this NEVER seen a naked woman before??......I guess that's very possible actually......:)
okay cut to the chase.
the united states has got a problem.
hillary clinton is so unpopular that practically any republican who ran against her would probably have beaten her.
I think the people in the video are for real. The actor is the guy who is moderating. My God how did he not break out in laughter?!? Or even gasp occasionally?? Impressive.
It does make me wonder if these Ohioans have been drinking Flint Michigan water. I mean how do you even get that stupid. Somebody, anybody, show me footage of people in another country being that stupid. Because I've never seen anyone but Americans be that stupid and its freaking embarrassing.
my "anointed" roommate told me a good one today.
as we were discussing psychotropic medications, she brought up a friend of hers who was recently forced off of "benzodiazepine" (there is no one drug by this name; rather, it is a specific classification of drug).
she claimed that many people are being forced off of the medication(s) due to "concerns over side effects," and that her friend is suffering from withdrawal on top of whatever symptoms the drug was previously helping to control (she didn't elaborate and i didn't feel comfortable asking, sorry).. my roommate then went on record to say (i'm paraphrasing here) "this is why armageddon has to happen very soon, because satan is using this system to make all these people suffer psychologically to drive them into the streets and go crazy.
Searcher, that's funny, I heard the 'China rising as a world power, end has gotta be imminent!' argument 12 years ago :).
Heaven, I was at a witness 'gathering' in 2008 during the time when people were losing their houses to foreclosures, committing suicide, losing their jobs, and a young man said 'wow, isn't this EXCITING!!! The end is upon us!!'
anyone else also hold this view or understand it at least, or do you feel the need to argue that both can in no way coexist?.
I believe that both coexist.
I am very interested in how life started. I was just reading an article about the possibility of life on other planets, and how they once thought conditions had to be near perfect for life...but after discovering life in very hot or cold conditions on earth, they are changing their theories on where exactly life could exist in the universe, the possibilities have broadened. But still, how does life start? There is still so, so much to learn about life and evolution. We have learned just recently that there were many different early human families, unrelated. It's not a direct line like they once thought.