I always wonder what the waiting staff thinks of these lunch conversations. It must be weird hearing parts of ex witness lunch talks. It would be kind of fun being a waitress and sort of a detective, trying to figure out what people are talking about. I bet when they spend a long time at the next table, wiping it down, they are listening to every word :).
FayeDunaway
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Finally found a friend I can talk to
by StarTrekAngel inhe is an old friend that used to attend my congo.
he moved away closer to his parents at some point and we lost touch.
for a couple of years i did not hear anything from him.
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Suffering with "Bridge-over-River-Kwai-syndrome" while fading
by OneGenTwoGroups ini've never liked being late for meetings, 10 minutes early has always been 5 minutes late for me.
i'm a very punctual atheist at the meetings still.. when someone asks a simple question from the platform and not one dummy raises their hand, i still feel the need to raise my hand so that we don't all look like idiots.. my shoes still need to be clean and polished, my suits and ties match and are in good shape.
i never wear them anywhere else.. i still feel like saying hello to people that are obviously being ignored by everyone else.. people not singing out still bugs me, lol.
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FayeDunaway
You're a responsible person, and socially very conscientious. These are good things. Plus, old habits die hard. Hopefully you can find a new outlet for these things, one that actually agrees with you instead of causing internal battles.
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How would the world be different if there were no JWs?
by JW_Rogue ini think this would be a great question to ask active jws.
they love to say how the world would be so different if everyone was a jw.
however, what if we flip the question and ask, would the world really be much different if the jw faith never came into existence?
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FayeDunaway
There would be less people pretending not to be home.................
LOL, so true!
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Catholic women diacons...
by mikeflood inpope francis sets study commission for women diacons.....could the watchtower follow sometime in the future?.
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FayeDunaway
Ok, this good Protestant LOVES pope Francis!!
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I need a little help
by Darryl inmy story is i've been df'd for about 20 years.
a couple years after i started attending church and found it to be a tremendously uplifting experience.
from the people to the music, message everything drew me in.
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FayeDunaway
Londo, exactly. A good church doesn't scream that they have all the answers and are the only one that can save people (that's a cult...fascist like Donald Trump ;)). A good church accepts people with different views. In mine, most believe in evolution, there might be some that take the bible more literally in some spots than others, and it really isn't a big deal.
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This generation will by no means pass away
by Darryl ingood morning i hope everyone is having a wonderful day.
there has been a lot of talk about the "new light" concerning the generation teaching.
it's been a major part of the prophecy concerning the last days and of course since jws are the only ones able to decipher and understand prophecy it is of great importance to get this main prophecy right.
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FayeDunaway
This teaching in particular has changed with the times. Whenever they needed to add some years, they changed the interpretation. But this overlapping generations thing is particularly ridiculous and completely unbiblical. Desperation fueled. They will continue to do whatever it takes to make themselves the important ones.
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Your thoughts on the Libertarian party
by James Mixon ini really like what governors w.weld and g. johnson bring to the table.. not familiar with the libertarian party and will do some investigation,.
but any thoughts on this party..
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FayeDunaway
Republicans are more likely to go libertarian than democrats, and with this election in particular, whatever gets people to not vote for trump, I'm all for it. It just means Hillary wins. So you would be making a statement against trump, yet not outright supporting Hillary. I say go for it.
My view of libertarians tho is this: former republicans who have decided they are more accepting of other people's definition of morality and believe strongly in freedom....yet they still don't give a crap about helping people, either internationally or within their own country. I may be a little wrong because I really haven't given them the time of day, despite being a political junkie.
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I need a little help
by Darryl inmy story is i've been df'd for about 20 years.
a couple years after i started attending church and found it to be a tremendously uplifting experience.
from the people to the music, message everything drew me in.
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FayeDunaway
Darryl I couldn't make peace with the Trinity either, until I dug deep and researched. Then I learned how hard the witnesses worked to make the new world translation all twisted around to support what they wanted to believe. Every single scripture about Jesus' position to the father has been twisted. I still believe the father is given the respect a father deserves. But Jesus is the only begotten son of God. Man begets man, God begets God. The Trinity was meant to reconcile how there can be only one God but Jesus is called God so often in the bible. The Holy Spirit is also a person but more mysterious...I actually do not quite believe he is also God, but there must be a reason a sin against the Holy Spirit is the only unforgivable sin. While not fully believing every aspect of the Trinity, I definitely have made peace with it and believe most of it. Research. Witness deceptions are the reason you can't fully move on, Darryl. As regards heaven, I believe that we do dwell with Jesus when we die, but that eventually the tent of God will be with people, and there will be a new earth. Many Protestant churches teach this as well.
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How would the world be different if there were no JWs?
by JW_Rogue ini think this would be a great question to ask active jws.
they love to say how the world would be so different if everyone was a jw.
however, what if we flip the question and ask, would the world really be much different if the jw faith never came into existence?
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FayeDunaway
Yes, more trees. But also, a few more Mormons, Church of God evangelicals, and a couple more Jonestown victims. People who would have joined the witnesses would have chosen another cult/fundamentalist religion. Others might have taken that college scholarship or opportunity to train for the Olympics.
Tho they are barely a blip on the world scene, it still feels like there would be a lot more acceptance and a lot less judgmentalism if they never existed. But people that have that need in their blood could have easily chosen a similar theology.
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Recent mistakes of the Governing Body contributing to the decline of JWs
by slimboyfat inthey have made so many strategical mistakes it's hard to keep track.
some changes within the last decade or so that are contributing to declining numbers of jws:.
1. elimination of book study groups, the most informal, enjoyable and sociable of the jw meetings, contributed to loss of sense of community among jws.. 2. policy of consolidating kingdom halls.
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FayeDunaway
Great thread, sbf. My thoughts:
Not keeping up with the times. Doggedly sticking to fundamentalism and being anti-science/education. While most other churches have found a way to incorporate evolution in their beliefs, witnesses continue to deny all of it. Science is proving otherwise. Just how deep can witnesses bury their heads in the sand, and for how long? I think they've got to come out with some balance soon. Evolution is being taught at younger and younger grades in school.
Also, they better teach some tolerance of homosexuality soon, they are starting to sound like the KKK. Even if they smooth over their condemnations in literature, taking the hatred out at the local level will take some training and work. Kids today are very sensitive to inflammatory speech and bigotry. Even traditional gender qualities are no longer easily defined. How can it be ok to not let women hold a microphone or have leadership roles anymore, when countiries like Sweden are not even using the gender specific 'he' or 'she' but inventing gender neutral pronouns?