Posts by ExBethelitenowPIMA

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Dr Heather Ransom's Story in the Daily Mail newspaper

by LostintheFog1999 in

following on from the rebekah vardy tv programme last week, dr heather ransom's story is in the daily mail.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12097861/my-family-friends-rejected-fled-jehovahs-witnesses.html.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

WingCommander2 days ago

@ EX:

I saw the Chan 4 interview with Vardy. In it, they said 8 million JW's. I noted it, because that's the "number" we've been hearing for about 20 years. (yes, along with 20 million Memorial attendees)

I've heard those figures since the mid-90's. Do you REALLY think that's the case? LOL!!!!! In reality, there's no likely no more than 3 million worldwide. There's more "out" than still "in."

WT HQ has been fixing the numbers for decades in order to prop up their false facade.

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Wing commander you just can not be right there.

Ad I was growing up and always remember the number of witnesses being in the millions the same as the population of the earth in the billions. So is that 1% roughly?

when I was young the population of the earth was about 6 billion people and the number of witnesses was 6 million. Then 7 for both and now 8 for both.

the script about the narrow road to life and just a few in it 1%, and wide and spacious the road to destruction with the 99% was always used.

if your not accurate it does cast doubt on everything else you say

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As time goes on they will get away with so much

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

when i was young we used to hear things about how they used to smoke and used to celebrate christmas etc.

we were just taught that was olden times now jehovah has clarified things.. but i was thinking about the poor older ones who had been in truth for decades who remembered those times, and they must have had doubts.. well look at the changes today in 2023.. we are supposed to just forget about 1975 and all these other things so what about the things happening in our time that we are supposed to feget about .

we should never forget that following direction to be fully vaccinated was harmful direction.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

When I was young we used to hear things about how they used to smoke and used to celebrate Christmas etc. we were just taught that was olden times now Jehovah has clarified things.

But I was thinking about the poor older ones who had been in truth for decades who remembered those times, and they must have had doubts.

Well look at the changes today in 2023.

we are supposed to just forget about 1975 and all these other things so what about the things happening in our time that we are supposed to feget about

we should never forget that following direction to be fully vaccinated was harmful direction

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Dr Heather Ransom's Story in the Daily Mail newspaper

by LostintheFog1999 in

following on from the rebekah vardy tv programme last week, dr heather ransom's story is in the daily mail.. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12097861/my-family-friends-rejected-fled-jehovahs-witnesses.html.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

“There are about 6.9 million Jehovah's Witnesses across the world”

Wrong its over 8 million publishers and 20+million memorial attendees

Its a shame they get key fact wrong as it casts doubt over everything

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Meaning of Elder from the horses mouth as contrasted with Clergy

by Longlivetherenegades in

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meaning of as captured in one of their publications.... .

elder: a spiritually mature male witness appointed to teach and to provide pastoral care for the well-being of congregation members.

an elder must meet the scriptural qualifications as outlined at 1 timothy 3:1-7; titus 1:5-9; james 3:17, 18; and 1 peter 5:2.. elders are not paid ministers and are not employees of their respective congregation or any corporation associated with jehovah’s witnesses.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

I have been an elder for a long time and still am. Although I’m agnostic which means I won’t commit to either intelligent design or chance.

what I can tell you is that there is a rapidly declining number of brothers who want to reach out as it’s called.

standards are lowering age is lowering but still there is a shortage of brothers who accept being an appointed man.

our elders meetings going over brothers who we think could reach out are showing huge decline in expectations.

years ago a brother never would have been considered for various reasons but now he is being asked but usually they say no thanks. Life is hard enough why take on all that o top of what I’m already dealing with.

The CO is asking brothers to just take it on, he says Jehovah will help you.

result is in many congregations there are some brothers becoming elders who would not have years ago.

but there is such a shortage now sometimes sister are doing microphones

there is not enough brothers to do all the jobs and they are not getting done well

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Anthony ,Tony , Morris where is he ? How is he ? Anyone ?

by smiddy3 in

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has anybody any information as to the whereabouts or the health of anthony morris ?.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

That time someone noticed him buying whiskey was a good example, he must be very very careful now. There are millions and millions of people who recognise him and are particularly interested in getting him on camera.

maybe he gets someone else to buy his habit or he gets them delivered.

it’s a good question what has happened to his wife, I mean if she decides to continue to be a faithful sister then she would be going to a congregation somewhere and sooner or later someone will leak some I fo

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Person I’m still an elder but I obviously don’t think the GB are inspired by Jehovah if he even exists.

During the GB coercion to take the death jabs that was the final straw.

now I’m PIMA. Mentally Agnostic. I still think the evidence points to intelligent design as the origin of everything but I’m agnostic so certainly open to blind chance evolution if the missing link is ever found or if evolution is not a theory anymore if it could be proven that it would change to fact.

the real meaning of agnostic is a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (such as God) is unknown and probably unknowable. broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god. : a person who is unwilling to commit to an opinion about something. political agnostics.

that’s me. I’m unwilling to commit to either intelligent design or chance.

But for now I’m enjoying being physically in. It’s my social life and I feel JWs are such good associations.

I also think it’s a big protection living by Bible principles. I love the Bible and I think JWs have the best grasp of it these days with all the videos and good explanations before each new book.

Will the Bible turn out to be just another book written by man or is there something special about it? I’m unwilling to commit but for now I love studying it.

If JWs turn out to be correct I will last minute jump that side of the fence. This is a loophole that the Gov body don’t want everyone to know but by their own teaching some will just come in right at the last minute.

so many on here could go and get reinstated and then be like me stay physically in for the benefits and they you could be mentally out or agnostic but still enjoy being in the congregation

But back on topic the GBody pushing the death jabs was the final straw for me to know for certain they are not inspired by Jehovah God. It doesn’t mean I will leave the congregation or tell anyone my true feelings. This is why I like to vent on here it’s my only pressure release 😆

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Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

by slimboyfat in

have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

have you got any views on the information?

i find it worrying at least.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Person it’s not yet common knowledge for all 8million JWs that the vaccines were not safe or effective.

most still think it’s so wonderful having the gov body direction telling us to take the shots because if not for them we would not have known they were safe.

I think there will come a time soon when it’s common knowledge that these vaccines were very dangerous for humans and they have damaged irreparably everyone who took it.

once this happens and everyone knows then that will be the time that JWs will question why the direction from Jehovah was so wrong and so harmful

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Petra--2023 PDF--Editions!

by Atlantis in

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pdf editions.

uk addendum to shepherd the flock.

english--elder manual.

ExBethelitenowPIMA

Can you post that change about the zoom meetings?

what other changes are there?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

ExBethelitenowPIMA

“He's pissed that he's not part of any of this. That's why he hasn't been covering basically anything new since the debacle.”

What is it that you are talking about please?

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And the lion shall eat straw like the ox

by Anony Mous in

the above verse is often quoted by jws both in general as a response to the idea of a deathless paradise and/or those promoting vegetarianism or veganism.. a letter in animal frontiers co-signed by nearly a thousand scientists is now warning that meat is crucial for a healthy lifestyle and livestock farming is too important to 'become the victim of zealotry'.. they stated the fact that most humans require the nutrients from eggs, meat and dairy and that plant based alternatives are at least 4x more expensive (which implies much higher energy consumption in the process) and not scalable and outright dangerous to global health to support a large population shift towards them.. they also called out several recent papers for misleading information and even called for the outright retraction of one that said meat substitutions are a viable alternative.. not sure what the modern jw view on this is, i know many people in the borg promoted it back in the day.

just goes to show that science does not support the notion of a global vegan diet..

ExBethelitenowPIMA

What about the 100% carnivores that are all showing results?

everyone without exception who goes 100% carnivore loses wait and inflammation and health problems reduce.

it’s the toxins in the plant based foods that is causing so many health problems