did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.
i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.
- god helped me greatly while i was still in.
((((((Dear Estee)))))
You placed this remark on my thread subject box to replace my original : "Return To God and He Will Forgive You in a Large Way!: ":TROLL ALERT!!!
Do you understand what This means, etiquettly speaking? Do you possess any equitable, just and civil qualities, Estee?
Start your own thread, and do Not malign this one that I have started.
Thank you.
Christian Love,
AAF
did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.
i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.
- god helped me greatly while i was still in.
((((Dear Estee)))
You said:"I recognize a troll when I see one ... and I know what to do ... "I expect unreceptive/unwelcoming observations here on this forum! It's OK for me to be criticized - it's to Jehovah God and Jesus Christ who judge, that I/we will be accounted for. We will all be judged according to our actions/ways! Christian Love, AAFESTEE
hello...just wanted to say hello and introduce myself.
my name is kelli.
i was raised as a jehovah witness by my mother.
(((((((Dear Kgrre,)))))))
Welcome to the forum!
You said:
"I befriended a girl my age and we became quite close. Her family were JW's and they lived across the street. Her father quickly began to emotionally abuse me and the sexual abuse started about three months later. His outward advances happened for a year and a half until I had enough courage to speak up. In the end, four other girls in the congergation came forward expressing he emotionally abused them. He was publicly reproved and lost his priviledges for five months! I became clinically depressed, suicidal and spiritually dead. The elders offered no support. Within a year, I disassociated myself because I couldn't bear to go to another meeting and endure having to look at him. I was seventeen years old. "
You went through dolorous physical and mental pain ! sweetheart. Those guilty of exercising such evil crimes toward their fellowman, in this case the one who inflicted You and the other four girls with this kind of dolorous physical/mental pain, this one/these one/ones are Accountable to Our Creator for commiting such Satanic/disgusting acts! As well those elders who offered you with NO Spiritual help/support will be accountable for their ignorant actions toward you!
Please don't lose faith in God and Jesus Christ. If you have the Bible - please read it daily- God and Jesus Christ truly love us.
Christian Love,
AAF
did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.
i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.
- god helped me greatly while i was still in.
(((((((Dear Larc )))))),
You said:"AAF, thank you for your reply."
You are welcome.
You said" I do not agree with your belief system,"
My belief system is based entirely in the Bible.
You said: "but I really do respect your sincerity."
Thank You.
You said :" Now, on a fine point: did Satan do it, or was it Satan, plus Adam and Eve? "
Yes, Satan the Devil was the Temptor/ Initiator / Culprit of Sin: disobedience to Jehovah God; Eve and Adam were Satan's successors, following Satan's temptation, thus sin entered in the World.
You said:"Now, if I do something wrong, or just plain stupid, do I blaim myself (Adam) or do I blaim the one who suggested it (Satan)?"
Well, since Jesus Christ's Sacrifice, we are free from Adam and Eve's transgression; therefore they have no culpability anymore. If you do something wrong now , you blame Satan first of all for being the Temptor, but ultimately the blame falls on yourself since you have free will. Christian Love, AAF
did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.
i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.
- god helped me greatly while i was still in.
(((((((Dear Larc))))),
I believe that I have responded to the questions you addressed me. Here, bellow, is the previously posted post - I copied and paste it for you. I understand that one can be lost here searching for posts.
I apologize to you for not being so prompt into answering your questions as you would like me to . I am only human and imperfect. I tought I had answered you already, Larc. I didn't use Quoted Scriptures on my previous post, but If that is what you want me to do, I will kindly show you Scriptures that will answer your questions. Please let me know.
Christian Love, AAFPREVIOUSLY POSTED: ((((((Dear Larc,))))) I said:"One who understands Basic Bible Teachings, would be able to easily discern/decipher the understanding to the questions you directed me. I percieve you are not one of these. I by no means consider myself a Theologian, but I will try to answer your questions according to the Scriptures:"AAFYou said?AAF, I have not read every word of this thread, but I got the general idea and have to ask you a question. Why should God forgive me - for what? He created me didn't he, and he made me imperfect.I said:"Forgive you for YOUR sins. God did not make you imperfect- God is Perfect - Sin made you imperfect!"You said:"So there is no reason for me to be forgiven for the imperfections that God gave me in the first place. I should forgive him for giving me these imperfections. AAF, will you address my comments?????????"I said:"God never GAVE you imperfections! Satan DID!" Christian Love, AAF
my brother turned 21 on september 24th, a month later the doctor told him that his leukimia had returned and he had a 10% chance of surviving.
ten days before he died he spent four days at my house.
he had already made up his mind that he wasnt going to take blood.
(((((( Dear Doodle - V ))))))
Please accept my deepest sympathy on the loss of your beloved brother!
Christian Love,
AAF
did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.
i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.
- god helped me greatly while i was still in.
((((((Dear William Penwell)))))
You said:"Heres my 2 cents worth, why don't you preach to someone that will listen to you?"
I have done that here - Look at the number of replies I received on this thread!
Only Jehovah God KNOWS who listened and who didn't listen to my preaching message!, William Penwell!
You said.Why should we believe a book full of myths amd supersitions? If you actually looked into how the bible has been written and rewritten over thousands of years you won't be so quick to beieve every word wrtten in it. It just an old book.You are free to believe anything you want! As a Christian , I accept the Bible as being the Inspired Word of Jehovah God. Christian Love, AAFWill
i?ve been a lurker for awhile and a member for a little while, and i?d like to tell you about myself and why i?m here.
i was looking for information, comfort and explanations for what happened in my life and i?ve found all that and more here---thank you all so much for your contributions, words of wisdom and humor.
3 years ago, almost 4, i was a divorced mother of 3 just getting my life together after having been married to a raging alcoholic for over 13 years.
(((((Dear Little 1))))),
WELCOME to the board!
Christian Love,
AAF
did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.
i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.
- god helped me greatly while i was still in.
((((((Dear LIttle)))),
You said:"For some reason I can't log on with my user name and password-it won't accept it. anyway, it is I, Little1 and you still haven't answered my questions. And yelling won't make anyone listen to you. It's rude. L1"
I advise YOU to exercise patience. I suggest you send Simon or Anghrad an e-mail stating that you, for some reason can not access the members-only part of the forum. I have been in this forum for over a year now, and what I have posted so far will inform you very well where I stand with my religious beliefs, and Why I consider myself a Jehovah God Witness. I advise YOU to read all of my existing posts on this forum before you make judgemental observations towards me. Christian Love. AAF
did you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.
i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.
- god helped me greatly while i was still in.
(((((((Dear Little1))))))
You said:"AAF:
The thing that bothers me the most in reading this whole thread is that NOT ONCE have you directly, IN YOUR OWN WORDS with your own thoughts answered one question. All you do is quote scripture"
.Not TRUE! Please read ALL my observations that I made in this thread, and you will conclude that I indeed made observations aside from quoting Scriptures only!
You said:"I am interested to know your story-how did you choose to get out of the WTS? Were you born in? Indoctrinated?"
I have my story posted here on Simon's and Angahrad's ( our hosts) forum - please read it - please refer to post 1.
You said:"I myself used to be a fire-breathing, fundamentalist, scripture totin' and quotin', black and white thinking believer. However, through a process not unlike that of James Thomas' journey I came to see and believe in a god much larger than any I had seen before."
You are free to believe in anything you want.
You said:"Although your enthusiasm is admirable, I wonder if you might give some thought to why you feel compelled to make everyone think as you do."
Thank you . Again, I have answered this question before : My love for my Neighbors/Fellowman and my Outmost Respect for my Creator : He admonishes us to warn all His creatures to Love Him,attain to repentance, follow God's commandements - by doing so We Please HIm, and we gain His approval for Salvation: God's creatures are very Precious to Him.
You said:"Seeing all that scripture quoting gives me the heebie jeebies and brings up flashbacks of my fundie days with people who had very little love for one another and a whole lot of judgement for everyone. Why should we want to be like that? Everyone has the right to believe as they wish, but no one has the right to force their beliefs on anyone else. "
Please read all my observations that I made in this thread PLEASE, and you will find all the answers to your questions as to what I believe in Jehovah God and Jesus Christ and why I believe in the way I do. I'am NOT forcing anyone! Anyone who is not interested/unresponsive in God's message is Free to walk away. God's message is available for us to exercise it - God is very well aware that not everyone will respond to His Holy Word.
You said:"In coming on like the Scripture Samurai you are doing the same thing as the guys going door to door on Sat. mornings trying to shove Jehovah (or his org) down the throats of the unwilling. You have a right to believe as you do. I have a right to say I believe differently."
Thank you.
You said:"Respectfully,"
Thank you.
Christian Love,
AAF
