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  Covid-19 (Coronavirus) - Status Update Thread

  by Simon in

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  this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.

  latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.

  the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.

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  Others maintained that smoking was a good preventative measure (imagine!)

  I can imagine.

  I was at a cabin in the mountains in 2006 and the outhouse had stacks and stacks of old National geographic magazines. One of the ads was from Camel cigarettes. It claimed that smoking Camels gives you vitamin C. It was dated 1964.

  I don't think enough is being done in the arena of 'science and medicine' versus the population growth in the last 60 years.

  I do think this pandemic will change that. If anything, its clear that the system is very wobbly at best in regards infectious diseases and cures. I have high hopes that after this economic hit globally, that it will probably be a top priority from now on. At least I hope so.
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  Why are things wrong?

  by Tim207 in

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  during our family worship tonight a thought popped into my head while watching this weeks video on demon influence.

  why is does jehovah not like certain things?

  like why is homosexuality wrong?

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  For me, growing up as a jw, just about everything was demonic. I lived in one of those over the top (even for jw standards) homes in regards that. Curtain moved with the wind, demons. Misplaced keys, demons. Horse got spooked, demons. Prank phone call, demons. ect....

  Talking about demonic abilities apparently gives the demons more power and abilities. Umm okay. Yet the magazines and publications have pictures in them portraying satan, beast, demons killings, global desolation, famine, ect.... That jws will spend time studying , looking at, and commenting on.

  We used to have semi trucks driving around that said ATDS trucking. I thought it said AIDS. Because I vocalized what I thought it said, the car was immediately pulled over and I got a butt busting on the side of the hyway. And long lecture about homosexuality.

  Using the word 'magic' in my household was just about viewed like using the word 'fuck'.

  To be a little balanced, not every jw home went overboard like mine did.

  Why are things wrong? Because the GB says so. Many other religions do the same thing, because their leaders say so.
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  Sad News Of Zing

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

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  very sad news .i am zing's partner.

  first time on any kind of blog so please forgive any mistakes.

  we have lost zing to the coronavirus this saturday gone, in the early hours.

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  I also saw this just a couple of hours ago, was waiting until I could log off after. I don't have many words, but now that I'm typing a comment ... I have tears. Devastating. Sorry doesn't seem to cut it. But for what its worth , I'm so sorry for your loss. Damn
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  Wearing Masks/ China&Other Asian countries

  by caves in

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  i've been reading that in asian countries if you go outside without a mask on, your looked at oddly and with disapproval.

  it seems they have been wearing masks for years.

  yet uk/us/canada/ and other countries do not.

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  I'm trying not to cross over into a thread that is already going, but I'm all for mandatory masks and get back to work.

  Especially after what I'm reading about other countries wearing them as the norm. I really don't know what to think.

  I can imagine it would be viewed as an overreach of government.

  This reminds me of a paper I read on the advantages of a dictatorship. (not all dictatorships are bad) and NO I didn't say we are in one in the US or headed towards one. But there are some advantages in a pandemic. Like making people wear one. * Im just saying, I'm not advocating AT.ALL!

  From what I'm reading most of it seems voluntary in these Asian countries. I could be wrong, I'm just learning of it.
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  Wearing Masks/ China&Other Asian countries

  by caves in

  1. jw
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  i've been reading that in asian countries if you go outside without a mask on, your looked at oddly and with disapproval.

  it seems they have been wearing masks for years.

  yet uk/us/canada/ and other countries do not.

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  I've been reading that in Asian countries if you go outside without a mask on, your looked at oddly and with disapproval. It seems they have been wearing masks for years. Yet Uk/Us/Canada/ and other countries do not.

  I guess I'm a little taken aback. Mainly from the hysteria about our "rights" being taken away by more and more places requiring masks.

  Its so normalized in these countries that they even use them as fashion statements.Have fashion shows with masks as part of the style.

  I had no idea.

  Also before I go to far off the point , which really is, that these places already wear them and have for years.

  Why in the world would say, having a mask as requirement for work or gathering in large groups be considered as "My rights are taken away?"

  Clearly this pandemic has shown us how useful they can be in slowing transmission down. Or am I missing something?

  Mask-wearing went from seasonal affectation to year-round habit. Today, Japanese consumers buy $230 million in surgical masks a year, and neighboring countries facing chronic pollution issues—most notably China and Korea—have also adopted the practice.

  https://theconversation.com/ive-always-wondered-why-many-people-in-asian-countries-wear-masks-and-whether-they-work-90178

  https://qz.com/299003/a-quick-history-of-why-asians-wear-surgical-masks-in-public/

  https://www.commisceo-global.com/blog/why-do-japanese-chinese-korean-and-thai-people-wear-surgical-masks
  

  I don't want to think that I have to wear a mask for the rest of my life, but .... well, what do you think about it?

  I have seen the studies that say masks don't eliminate pathogens from getting through the masks but it does slow things down...

  Do you think this will become the norm in the countries that have not been wearing them?
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  Do You Think It’s Time For Businesses To Reopen Even Though Coronavirus Is Not Obliterated?

  by minimus in

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  i think it’s time for business to reopen and let’s get the economy going again!

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  what say you??

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  Rub, you are trying to start a shit storm with your last comment. Open a new thread about it so it can bite the dust. Dude really? , so uncalled for!

  I most certainly have an opinion about what you are referring to.

  Simon has very clearly stated not to go there. Please don't ruin Minimus thread.

  The question here is a pretty important question the whole world is asking and I for one would like to see others reply's and not have to wonder if its going to be hijacked by some unrelated bull.

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  Do You Think It’s Time For Businesses To Reopen Even Though Coronavirus Is Not Obliterated?

  by minimus in

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  i think it’s time for business to reopen and let’s get the economy going again!

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  what say you??

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  All or nothing- I completely agree. That's is exactly what is happening.
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  Not sure on how to tie this into a JW topic, but has anyone seen Ru Paul lately. Just flipping through the channels ...

  by RubaDub in

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  i guess boredom is setting in (i am not interested in seeing football / baseball / basketball /hockey games from five years ago).

  i am switching through the channels and there is ru paul and several "friends.".

  i'm not sure of which pronoun to use, but ru paul looks like a football player and not the thin, svelte person that was the ru paul of 20 years ago.

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  Once you see a drag queen do a back flip off a 6 foot high stage in 6inch stilettos with a perfect landing and doesn't miss a beat in preforming, Rupaul seems like nothing. I saw that in 1997 in austin tx at club 51.

  I think Rupaul has given the LGBTQ- xlmnop- kjhsp( how many letters are they going to add to that)lol. Community a bad rap. As if that community needed the help.

  What I don't like bout rupaul is that in the late 90's he fucking straight out lied to the entire gay community and said that he was not gay and happily married and that he only did drag for the money and entertainment. Of course most of the gay community saw through that bull crap. I consider him the worst type of two face double standard coward. There is nothing noble about him. Unfortunately the newer "labeled" generation laps it up.

  Totally like watching a building on fire and a train wreck in slow motion.

  If it were not for Lawanda Page, Rupaul would probably not exist as she is the one who catapulted him into success.

  Speaking of Lawanda Page.....

  https://youtu.be/Ki801ccg9Yo
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  Alone

  by Youngaposthate in

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  hey you all, i'm honestly pretty depressed on my own out there.

  it's quite terrifying being on your own out there in a lone wolf kinda way.

  i'm not sure how much my brain can tolerate this mest up feeling of social abandonment caused by the borg and family.

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  I think you will find many of us here get exactly what you are saying because we have felt that way in one way or another.

  I get the feeling of ' not sure how much more my brain can take'!

  I've been there to many times to count.

  Like Pete Zahut said, Staying in the NOW helps a lot. Also don't be afraid to call a hotline. I've had to many times and it helped. ( just a note on that as I have much experience with calling hotlines, sometimes you may get someone that is flippant, or abruptly hangs up because of time constraints or the caller they had before you is literally out on a ledge and called back and they have to dispatch the call. If that happens 'no one ever warned me that it could , so it took me by surprise and hurt me',) ...simply call back.

  Definitely try finding a therapist asap. In the meantime and during please do come here and share your feelings, as many here can relate.

  In time and perhaps not so very far off in the distant future you will find that you are stronger than many people around you because you went through this.

  I have friends that would crumble if they had even 1/16 of this happen to them. That fact alone makes me feel more empowered within myself.

  The feelings of wanting to die considering what you are going through/have gone though are absolutely normal. It completely sucks on every level.

  Please do reach out here.

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  Call Me MacGyver!

  by Terry in

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  i rode my bicycle to the corner gas station / convenience store.i couldn't find my regular mask - so - i improvised.as i walked up to the young lady clerk, her eyes grewwide wide wider and she said:"that's a um very unique face mask you have there, sir.

  "i grinned invisibly.

  "yep, i actually made it from an old pair of purple boxer shorts.

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  LOL eww, gross.

  This gave me a chuckle.

  Also, YEA!!! I haven't seen you on here Terry. I was starting to get worried.

  Rub, eww, thats nasty. lol