Yes. Read "Combatting Cult Mind Control" by Steven Hassan. Try to detect any of the signs that are talked about in JW's. I think you'll agree with me after reading it.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
do you think that the jw religion is a cult?
i believe that it is, but i wanted to get other people's opinion.
Yes. Read "Combatting Cult Mind Control" by Steven Hassan. Try to detect any of the signs that are talked about in JW's. I think you'll agree with me after reading it.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
That device plus restraints on the rest of my body is the only way I'll ever read a bible again.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
why oh why oh why are there defenders of the wts posting and participating on an apostate website?!
surely the borg, correct me if i am wrong, tells (us)you to stay away from anything apostate.
to treat it with the disdain it deserves... so why?, i ask you, are you participating?
You know, there's really only one person here who I always look for their posts because they're either bringing up a good point or are just plain hilarious. Once again, I'm with Britboy here and totally and completely look forward to reading more of your posts!
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
i must say i thoroughly enjoyed doing streetwork for the first time in my life!!.
it was really cold here in chicago yesterday,snow clouds looming in the sky.
about 10 am i decided to run home for my cofee break.. as i rushed down the main street,walking quickly,i saw 2 groups of jw's w/ their mags on the main street near home.. i haven't seen any around my territory since last spring.. humph i thought.. i double-timed it home,bundled up,grabbed my stacks of silentlambs posters and ran back to the main street.. i stood on the corner,several feet ahead of them and started saying hi to passers by.
Once a few months ago some JW's from my old cong. were out in service in my neighborhood and apparetnly didn't realize where I live. After they left my house they went on to a few others. I got in my car and kept following them around honking at them while they were talking to house holders. I ended up calling the police and reporting these suspicous looking men poking around houses in the neighborhood. A few minutes later myself, as well as everyone else in the neighborhood saw some flashing lights behind the JW's. Needless to say, they ended their day a bit early. BTW, the people in the car were from my old congregation and knew me well.
That was such a fun morning.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
hey peeps, how are you?.
the name is mark, i've been hanging around here from time to time.
i read about the elders meeting with officer danni.s.
Hehehehe, this funny hearing two different versions of this story. The thing that's so great about it is that instead of being conflicting they actually add details. Great work you two and I really do hope that you continue to keep us posted on the developments.
Actually Cygnus, the WT does seem to be rather concerned about what they're up to. Concerned enough to have legal counsel on the phone, attempt to get a gag order on Danni, and going to the media to portray them in bad light.
Keep up the great work Mymy.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
does this trouble anyone?.
it seems semantic tom-foolery to declare a war on terrorism, and then to say that prisoners of the war are not prisoners of war.. it also seems very suspect keeping them of proper usa soil, as where they are they are out of sight, mind, or appeal by civil-rights factions.. do not get me wrong.. i am not saying, "ah, poor ickle terrorists".. but in a war against terror, surely taking each and every opportunity to distance yourself from your enemies is the wisest and best course of action?.
why do anything that is even remotely dodgy or underhand?.
Call me cruel but I really couldn't care less about their human rights. Remember, these people are from the same group that caused the death of 3,000 people and brought down the WTC. Any one of them would probally do the same if given the chance. They're being monitored by the Red Cross and the treatment they're getting is much more humane than they would have gotten if handled by the Taliban. Personally, I think some laxatives should be added to their food to make things just a little more interesting for them.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
Does making animal noises count as talking?
How about impersonations?
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
anyone know of any current elders who in the past have taken lsd or other mind bending substances prior to when they got into the untruth?.
did it affect their minds at all, if so, how?.
peace.
I know an exelder who used to take just about everything you can think of. Notice I said exelder. Last time I heard anything about him was when one of my friends went to visit his family out of town (he had kids about our age) and when my friend got there the first thing the dad was tell my friend to take a hit from his bong. That never was a normal JW family and I'm suprised they stayed as long as they did. The oldest son was cool as hell though. He was a few years older than all of us but wasn't snobby like the people his own age. He'd always let the teenagers hang out his place whenever we wanted and it kind of became a known rule amongst all of us that anything that happened at his appartment stayed there and wasn't talked about anywhere else. Good arrangement because all of us did at least one thing that could have gotten us in some serious trouble there. He was so great I actually had my own key to his apartment and could take my girlfriends from school over there whenever I felt like it. There were even times he'd leave so we could have the place to ourselves. That stuff doesn't really matter now but man, I still miss that guy. He was such a great friend.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
if we can find (or help find) people jobs, can we play match-maker, too?
i think being raised as a 'witness' puts me in a unique 'class' (aka 'co-dependent ha ha).
now that i'm 41 (divorced, white, professional, female [mom]) i have discovered many things about why i have become the person i am.
Actually, my sister has had wonderful luck with online romance. She's still a JW and so's her husband. Someway or another (don't remember how) they met each other on the net and ended up meeting in real life and he eventually moved here to Indiana in the US from Denmark. A few of the elders gave her hell about it because her exhusband's (who was an abusive alcholic that cheated on her repeatedly) dad was friends with them was an elder but they couldn't really stop her. That was a couple years ago and everything she's said about the guy has been nothing but very positive.
Come to think of it, a guy I used to know ended up marrying a girl he met over the net and another one of my good friends and his girl friend of the past year or so met that way also. Don't get me wrong, before I got married I had a few not so wonderous encounters with women I met over the net and I've heard of some rather horrible dates from my friends too. Actually, the worst date I ever had was with a net girl. I'd say the chances are about as good as anywhere else.
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.
joel's post made me stop and think that we might give consideration to helping each other find jobs in this depressed economy.
there's still jobs open and people being hired.
finding them is the trick.
I'd offer to help anyone find a job around here but I really don't know of any, even for myself. I do computer tech, network engineering, and website design. I'm in Indiana right now but would be more than willing to relocate just about anywhere.
You can go to http://www.asteroidmodels.com/personal/resume.htm to see me resume.
Thanks!
I don't need to fight
To prove I'm right
I don't need to be forgiven.