Posts by BU2B

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Effect of family life (me, wife and young boy) if I am df / da and wife zealous jw

by Daniel1555 in

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friends

i have a question and hope to hear some experiences of you who went or are going through this situation:.

actually for several reasons (blood policy, disfellowshipping policy and some more) my conscience is telling me quite strongly, that i should not anymore be a part of that organization.. my wife and even elders know about my doubts (except blood policy).

however i continue to join the meetings actually just to please my wife and to be together with our baby boy.

BU2B

My heart goes out to you my friend as I am in a very similiar situation. Plenty of good advice here.. Just take it slow.. Try to sow seeds of TTATT. Do NOT spill your guts, and tell her all you know, It will NOT work. Just scale back slowly on WT activities, show no interest or zeal, and try to ask questions to draw her out. What are her weak points/doubts? Once you find these you can think of some questions to ask her to draw her out, to make her think for herself. This is easier said than done, and may not work, but this is the best way IMO. I have a 3 year old girl and it pains me to see her go to the KH, but I think as a child gets older and has one parent who allows them to have "worldly" friends, celebrate birthdays, play school sports etc, they will automatically gravitate to that parent 90% of the time.

I think that it is very difficult when one spouse is in and the other faded, for the faded one to make sure the child has a normal childhood, seeing as the believing parent may out them when they see the child "going to the world". On the other hand if you are DF or DA, you will be able to raise them as you see fit, however if this happens your spouse may leave you to "rescue her childs spirituality". You must be prepared for this reality. It is a tangled mess and should be criminal for anyone to have to go through this web of mines we must navigate. The best option, if possible is to keep family intact and wake your wife slowly. Doing this will be painful for you as you keep up a charade, but there are ways to bear it for the time nessesary.

Even If you stand your ground and your family disentegrates, comfort yourself with the knowledge that when your child gets older, they will appreciate the parent that LOVES THEM UNCONDITIONALLY FOR WHO THEY ARE and NOT WHAT THEY BELIEVE. And they have a parent that had the courage and integrity to do the right thing no matter the cost for their own welfare. Odds are as children grow and become dissatisfied with JW life, which they almost certainly WILL, they will appreciate and value that they have someone in their corner and another option for their lives.

However your child is still very young so you have some time.. Take it slow for now... We are all here for you OK?

Feel free to PM me anytime you like

With you in solidarity- BU2B

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The final chapter in the confusedandalone story...

by confusedandalone in

this morning i get a frantic call from my sister (who has been baptized 1 year and one month and never attends meetings anymore).

in tears she tells me that this morning my father picked her up in the car and told her that i was am apostate.

that i no longer loved jehovah and that i was going to be disfellowshipped.

BU2B

How did you wake your wife up C&A? It is sad you are losing your parents and siblings, but remember it is their choice not yours. You have your immediate family with you, thats the most important thing. I would walk away right now if I had my family with me.. Please meet with the elders if you can! Stay calm, and try to reach them with TTATT. You will not see immediate results but If you record it, it may help thousands in the future. We need more of these apostasy trials recorded like Raypublisher/JJ's. Im sure you could even just send him the audio and he likely would make a video of it. Either way, you are about to be totally free, and this is really the best thing. I cant wait until the day they say BU2B is NO LONGER ONE OF JEHOVAHS WITNESSES! Then I will feel a weight off I am sure. The worst is over.

Best Wishes- BU2B

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has shunning been downplayed?

by chickpea in

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friends

several times over the course of a year or so, jws from the kh i attended have been downright chatty during happenstance crossing of paths... .

wth is up with that?

i have no grudges against any of them, but it is confusing as all get out to have left the cult as an ardent supporter of my out, open, front page headlining transgender son, becoming vocally and decidely apostate knowing i was dead to them... now after at least a half decade out, to have them chummy-ing up to me in a check-out line.... frankly, i would rather they look the other way, you know, if none of them would ever genuinely want to know how my son is doing.

BU2B

Shunning is NOT being downplayed by the WT, however many individual JWs DO associate with DF ones and I think the GB grip is weakening, and they know it. This will make them more desperate. I see JWs all the time on Facebook with DF friends and they dont even try to hide it.

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Letter From My Mother: Moire insane Watchtower Rhetoric

by confusedandalone in

again, i apologize to any who think i may be going overboard posting these letters, but i am hoping that i can help prepare others for the type of bombardment that they may face when dealing with mentally diseased witness parents who have no idea just how much control this cult has over them:.

august 19, 2013. dear <my name removed> & <my wifes name removed>, .

i had the privilege of attending the convention this weekend for a second time and i must say that i enjoyed it more than the first.

BU2B

Wow outsmart the system! That was quite the response.. A JW cant really refute what is said there. Excellent.

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How did you spend your Saturdays?

by MissConfused in

it's been 3 weeks and every weekend is so much fun, spending quality time with real friends who dont pretend... last week was bbq, this sat was potluck, next one is long weekend away from home... all in all love my life again.... how was your saturday?

:).

BU2B

Glad to see everyone enjoying "living without law". The law of the GB

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How Many JWs Are Confident They Are Worthy?

by Ding in

which jws do you think actually feel confident that they would survive armageddon if it came tomorrow?

gb members?

bethelites?

BU2B

BTW when I was mentally in throughout my childhood, I NEVER felt good enough to make it. Always something I was struggling with that I never felt good enough. Only now do I realize most JWs have the same feelings, and that it is by design.. part of the mind control process.

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How Many JWs Are Confident They Are Worthy?

by Ding in

which jws do you think actually feel confident that they would survive armageddon if it came tomorrow?

gb members?

bethelites?

BU2B

Ding: Sometimes it amazes me how many hours JWs spend going door to door telling people about the "good news of Jehovah's kingdom" when deep down they are worried that they might not make it themselves.

Ding I think that IS the REASON many of them go out; to give themselves a little better chance of making it. They go on and on about not being bloodguilty, so they want to recruit others so they can join them in their guilt fest. Wouldnt want they end to come and you havent DONE ENOUGH! I think this is their biggest fear.

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My Neighbor Got Egged The Other Day.

by Narcissistic Supply in

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it came from the front of my house.......the first thought out of my mind was.....some petty jw was feeling persecuted and trying to retaliate....as i don't hesistate to throw jw flyers back at the people that leave them in my door....(with a big smile and wave, of course).

my neighbor was mad yelling and blaming my kids....(my kids were not even home).

what a circus..

BU2B

Kids are egging houses now? Boy Armageddon must be close! Where are those she-bears when you need them!

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Steve Hassan Interviews XJW elder, Roberto di Stefano, at ICSA Conference in Italy

by AndersonsInfo in

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friends

trieste, italy - icsa conference - july 6, 2013. both roberto di stefano and steve hassan were speakers at the conference.

you can see the hassan interview on his website.

here's the link:http://freedomofmind.com/media/video.php?id=59.

BU2B

Wow, excellent video! I love the kindness and sincerity of these men. Although men such as these are painted as the devils tool by the Watchtower, in reality, they only want people to be able to have real freedom.

Thanks for posting this here- BU2B

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Why are the moms so attached to religion?

by ILoveTTATT in

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friends

please don't take this the wrong way, i would love it for women to comment on this thread because i just can't understand something!!.

here's the pattern i see:.

mostly guys in here.. if the guys are married, their wives usually stay a jw, or it takes 3 times as much time to convince a woman to leave than a man.. if the guys have a jw father, the father is open-minded and can be more easily persuaded to leave.

BU2B

Sir82 thats my wife to a tee! She says that even if there is corruption even as far up as the GB, Jehovah will cleanse it and fix it. The thought that it really isnt "gods organization" does not really come to their mind though does it. She thinks they at least have the basics right, no immortal soul, paradise earth, no war etc.. and because of this she feels it must be "the truth". She does not realize that the only reason she believes in paradise earth, only 144,000 go to heaven, 2 hopes etc, is because that is what she has been taught by the GB as truth from her childhood on up, and does not realize there is no "holy spirit" on them at all, and it is all just opinions of mere men.. Its very frustrating, but hey! its a start.