Thanks Noi
It does make you think. Just makes me glad to be completely free even though I've been "organization" free for so long
well i finally ordered crisis of conscience.
even though i've been da'd since 1989 the truth is that i always considered it to still be the truth up until a couple of years ago when i started researching more through sites like this.
i never got around to getting my hands on that book though, and now can't wait until it arrives.
Thanks Noi
It does make you think. Just makes me glad to be completely free even though I've been "organization" free for so long
well i finally ordered crisis of conscience.
even though i've been da'd since 1989 the truth is that i always considered it to still be the truth up until a couple of years ago when i started researching more through sites like this.
i never got around to getting my hands on that book though, and now can't wait until it arrives.
LOL, Lisa!
Thanks though, maybe one of these days I'll scan one of them old Navy pics and send ya.. Haven't tried to squeeze into that outfit in 4 years now..
yrs2long,
I know what you mean about mental/emotional connections to them, it's a shame. I look forward to getting this book and reading it very quickly most likely.
-Rick
ok, the good news is i'm on vacation: a time when i should just relax, have fun, do things i like to do when i want to do them, stay up all night, sleep all day, whatever.
but, i picked of all times to *try* to quit smoking.
i used to smoke like only when i was drinking, or if i had a really bad day at work, but lately due to a stupid ass man in my life and my family fighting, i have been smoking more than i should.
I fought the habit for years.. and even then it took me until last year to finally quit.. Mind you I started quitting in 1999..LOL Patches, gum, none of it worked.. All I would do is torture myself with the thought of a cigarette until of course I lit it up took one drag and there wasn't anything left but the filter..LOL
Good luck in quitting it. It's tough but worth it:)
-Rick
i'm extatic .
my husband is stepping down as an elder tomorrow.
how do you guys think that will go?
Congrats to your husband Prisila!
i am not speaking of 'secret' in the sense that no one knows this, but in the sense of the phrase 'open secret' where no one wants to talk about something that is known and true, but makes people uncomfortable.
kind of like the 'crazy aunt' that lived in a room in the finished attic.
everyone knew she was there, but no one wanted to talk about her being there.. well, the open secret about race relations in the usa, is that all of us working class folks have been used against each other by the elite from the earliest history of this country.
Very interesting and well put.
-Rick
the june 1, 2002 wt has an interesting discussion of whether genetics and our biology have any influence on "alcoholism, homosexuality, promiscuity, violence, other aberrant behavior and..." .
their conclusion?
essentially, they say no.
Maybe the old bastards up there in Brooklyn should spend a little more time trying to figure out how to predict a new prophecy so they can up their membership and watch it fail of course instead of trying to become experts in scientific matters when they obviously have no clue of anything other then deception.
-Rick
a while back there were some postings asking if miracles still happen today, so i thought this latest story from my life would be appropriate.. my husband's friend from work lost his father to cancer, shortly after that he lost his wife, also to cancer.
a few months ago his teenage son was diagnosed with bone cancer and not given a very good chance of survival.. i don't know this man, only met him once, and i never met his son.
but something inside me just made me so angry, and my heart so heavy -this could not happen.
Nobody here I don't think has the proper credentials to discredit you here Dawn. I think that even though there are lots of questions of why this and why that and there always will be it does not mean god doesn't listen to us in our prayers and comfort us in some ways. You know what you felt and that's what matters. Thank goodness he turned out to be okay.
-Rick
the recent gathering of cardinals with the pope regarding the pedophile priests issue is a good sign that they are taking this most seriously.
the pope spoke out against pedophile priests and his intention to have a zero tolerance policy.
he spoke out on behalf of the victims and their affected families.
I'm sure the Watchtower will find a way to put themelves above what the Catholics do. Admitting there is an existing problem and ensuring publicly that something needs to be done about it might be enough to kill off the Governing Body..LOL
-Rick
when did you leave?.
what prompted you to doubt/leave the organization?.
for those who are still active, do you plan on leaving soon?
I'm sure a lot of people here have similar stories, its a shame that this religion seems to do more tearing down than building up.
It is truly a shame. So many families torn apart because of their useless mind controlling ways and ridiculous and I will say unscriptural shunning.
-Rick
we call the wt the "borg" & their followers "dubs" etc., these are describtive words that (we) have given them.. my question is this: why do we refer to ourselves as "apostates"?
this is their (derogatory) name for us.. what can we call ourselves, how bout "liberators"?
, this is difficult.
I don't consider myself an apostate at all. If I am then I'm an apostate from the JW's, but certainly not in the biblical sense of apostacy. I think I was more of an apostate as a witness then I am now. So in a sense we could turn the tables on them as nobody has more false "apostate" teachings then the JW's do.
-Rick