Maximus, that is very important info, but I can see where you'd think it could skew the analysis, for if others from those same congregations are reporting also, those same pedo's would get counted twice. Good thinking.
RCat
please respond to amazinig's survey under the title "poll elders vs molesters".
all you have to do is type in a number, that's it.
it you didn't know any jw child molesters type in a zero.
Maximus, that is very important info, but I can see where you'd think it could skew the analysis, for if others from those same congregations are reporting also, those same pedo's would get counted twice. Good thinking.
RCat
do we,can we,make time for ourselves?.
many of us exiting the wts were limited and restricted regarding our free time/vacation activities.most activities didn't meet with wts approval for various 'reasons'.
"worldly associations,is it 'wholesome'?
Hmmmm.. so let's play rocket scientist here.. You're saying Tina wrote you an email that was nasty (nasty is relative when it comes to Prisca folks, she wrote the book. Passive-agressive nastiness at it's best!), then she blocked you from sending her any back.
Now, before she sent you that email, had you sent her one first? That's the pertinent question, imo. And also, if you can't answer her privately, why don't you just publicly answer her, instead of coming in here throwing a foot-stomping tantrum on a perfectly nice thread? Can everyone say C-H-I-L-D-I-S-H and S-E-L-F C-E-N-T-E-R-E-D??????
Why don't you just start another thread with your public answer and let Tina answer you back? Or is that simple logic too much for you to handle, Prisca? And don't bother giving me the "I don't want to have a fight thread going on the board" answer. You've already started one on the board. And it didn't just take an "ignorant American" to figure it out.
RCat
do we,can we,make time for ourselves?.
many of us exiting the wts were limited and restricted regarding our free time/vacation activities.most activities didn't meet with wts approval for various 'reasons'.
"worldly associations,is it 'wholesome'?
You're quite welcome! At least you're learning your lessons well. You're even surpassing ME! Good job! Aren't you so proud?
You know, someday, when your time comes, you won't die, you'll just "Nasty" away.... lolololol
RCat
do we,can we,make time for ourselves?.
many of us exiting the wts were limited and restricted regarding our free time/vacation activities.most activities didn't meet with wts approval for various 'reasons'.
"worldly associations,is it 'wholesome'?
Dana,
Good laugh, wasn't it? lololol...
And you know, I always say, there's nothing like a good shit-stirrer to ruin a good, friendly thread. Don't you think so?
So let's have some fun and raise a toast to Prisca, the best shit-stirrer I know!
RCat
do we,can we,make time for ourselves?.
many of us exiting the wts were limited and restricted regarding our free time/vacation activities.most activities didn't meet with wts approval for various 'reasons'.
"worldly associations,is it 'wholesome'?
Well, it's not summer where I'm at, lol. It's the July rainy winter season, but that's ok. We have such good weather all year 'round here, that it's no biggie to go through one rainy month per year.
However, July WILL be a very busy month for us, as we're getting ready to move to the USA in August. So I'll be sorting, packing, moving things around that we wish to keep here in Oz, then renting out the properties and getting everything settled and ready to go!
Now, when I get to the USA, we'll be just about ready for my daughter to have her first baby, so I'll be helping her get ready and spending time with my kids and my other two grandchildren, whom I haven't seen in 20 mos by the time I get there! Lots of things to look forward to!
RCat
parking lot disfellowshipping .
[i have changed the sequence of the justice series.
i will post the other titles later.].
I must admit, Trilobite has a very valid point, Amazing. The word Squirm does describe how I felt when reading the story. You see, the elders in the KH where I attended always acted in this manner, also. Their egos were unbelievably out of bounds. And yes, be honest with yourself here. Didn't it make you feel bad, just thinking about who you used to be? Did you feel some need to "whitewash" or "justify" such behavior, because you can't stand to believe that you acted in such a way?
Just some questions you might pose to yourself. I don't hold it against you now, as it is patently apparent that you realize the way that things are done in that organization are blatantly sexist and WRONG. However, Trilobite and MD are both right in spotting that some justifying/whitewashing were going on in that telling of the story. Maybe you still have some inner work to do, to cut out that part of the ego which still justifies such actions? In any case,
Best regards,
RCat
i had long talk with my mom the other day, she called me and wanted to discuss the org and the things i didn't believe in.
i will spare you most of the convo, but a few things "clicked" as i spoke to her.
maybe i have been away for so long i can't clearly remember all of the teachings, but she did agree with a few things i brought up.
Hi Mommy,
I have a suggestion for you. You might ask your mother, when discussing the lack of love in the congregations, "How loving is it of you to shun me when I'm not even DA'd or DF'd? Show me in your Bible where it says to do that." Make her prove to you WHY she is doing this. Use the Shunning information found on the net to turn the tables on her and show her where it is scripturally wrong.
Just a suggestion. Hang in there. I know it's not easy!
Hugs,
RCat
parking lot disfellowshipping .
[i have changed the sequence of the justice series.
i will post the other titles later.].
SawtheLight,
I see your subject as belonging on another thread entirely. It's not what we're discussing here. Why don't you post it on it's own as a separate thread?
RCat
parking lot disfellowshipping .
[i have changed the sequence of the justice series.
i will post the other titles later.].
HI Amazing,
I wanted to clarify my earlier post. It seems you thought we were all just following MD's thread of opinion. I wanted to clarify my words.
I thought I made it clear that I, personally, was seeing your post as just putting everything out there for us to see, whether you looked good or bad in it, so we could see the injustice. I SAW that injustice was perpetrated on the girl, and what your part was in it, and commented that I thought the second visit, although it was the first visit to the "Worldly" home, was harassment. I further stated that I thought the parking lot JC was a Kangaroo court. I stand by that statement.
However, I guess I didn't make clear that I feel it is highly commendable of you to post these things just as they happened, even though the evidence against who you were then can be very damning, at least in THIS particular case. I give you credit for trying to keep the girl from being shunned. At the same time, I can clearly see you also were "going with the flow" of the organization and the male ego was highly involved, at least in this case.
Yes, I agreed totally with Tina's posts, both the first and last one. I, too, very much appreciate your posting the Justice series. It gives great food for thought, and exposes the Organization for what it is: Corrupt to it's very core. Thank you.
RCat
here's your chance to complement a poster whose posts make you think, make you mad, make you laugh, make you cry.
i usually find something that i dig in everybody's post around these parts.
but i'll single out some peeps in particular.
Dana and Mulan! How could I forget to list you two? And Angharad, I love your posts! And LovesDubs, that Sally Field one-liner was great. I'd like to see more of your posts around here! Always love 'em!
I must give credit to Prisca, also. She and JanG help me to sharpen my steely wit and tongue.
Gosh, we're all starting to sound like the Waltons!
RCat