Posts by ronin1

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High Control? Cult?

by JoeSinclair in

hi guys,.

i have posted earlier today about the witness translation of the bible.

i am trying to learn about the jw way of life from the perspective of an interested outsider.

ronin1

Hi JoeSinclair:

I will try not to be boring, but put this in a way you can understand why many persons on this site refer to the JW organization as a High Control Cult.

I could be known as one who was 'born' into this religion. I will tell you that from the time of our birth and youth, this religious organization controls just about everything its members do: from meeting attendence, to ministry, to associations, to entertainment activities, to choice of employment, to child rearing, to weddings, to finally your death or funeral arrangements- all under the guise that they (the top honchos) are from God and Spirit ordained from God, etc. And while this high control, mind control, brainwashing is happening for years--from generations to generations, devout JW's have no friends except other JW's. That is why many will not leave the JW organization even when they know things are not bible based or clearly wrong. They are afraid of being shunned by their other so-called JW friends/associates because all the years in the JW organization they never cultivated other outside friendships. Therefore, for many, if they leave the JW organization for any reason other than death, they have no true friends and emotionally cannot handle such a predicament.

I can only give you the advise that the Bible gives: examine the scriptures carefully. Do not let any religion tell you what to do, where to go, who to associate with, who to like or love, what clothes to wear,etc. The Bible for the most part is self-explanatory and understandable.What you do not understand- pray to Almighty God about and ask reasonable minded persons their understanding only-not their personal opinions.

As 1 Cor 2: 15 and Acts 17:11 states respectively:

"However, the spiritual man examines indeed all things, but he himself is not examined by any man".

"Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so".

Hope this insight helps.

Ronin1

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WT HARDLINE on BLOOD death 15 y.o. Ireland

by DannyHaszard in

caption: .

a family photograph of the late sarah oleary taken on holidays in thailand with her family last year.

father tells of sorrow on losing sarah

ronin1

I'm not sure about this entire situation. It is very sad because a life was lost.

However, if her injuries were such that nothing would have saved her, why bother with a blood trransfusion?

On the flip side, we all know the changing of WT doctrines on the blood issue. As long as I can remember, taking any type of blood transfusion was wrong. Then in 1999 or 2000, all of a sudden its ok to take some blood fractions, etc. (Baloney)

It's either wrong to take blood transfusions or its not wrong to take blood transfusion. The Bible does not change. God's word does not change. Almightly God has never changed his rules or values, etc,

Again, this is a sad situation and sometimes the news media does not do justice to the families involved.

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The experience of a Christian elder found in todays WT study

by skin in

when we studied this para in todays watchtower i found it hard to believe that an elder would think this way, what do you think?

16 yes, no matter what dark valley we may find ourselves in, we do not have to walk through it alone.

our shepherd is with us, helping us in ways that we may.

ronin1

I do not think that this elder was weak.

No matter how experienced or spiritual we feel ourselves to be, when faced with such a situation, many question God and why it has happend to them. Sometimes our faith in God in shaken by such events, etc.

His thoughts showed he was at least human.

Ronin1

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Excuses to avoid Field Service

by serendipity in

what are some excuses used by jw's to avoid going in field service, that others didn't question or hold against the person?

ronin1

Hi:

I have not posted in a long time because we moved from New York to Florida in 2003 and I have just been so busy.

However, I never gave any excuses to anyone. If I did not want to go out in field service and did not. If someone asked me why I was not out, I simply told them I have other things to do.

Plain and simple. I never cared what other persons thought or said. I was always a rebel.

P.S.- The JW's here in South Florida are worse than up North, in New York City, etc. They have not a 'clue' about what is going on in the organization. They are clearly 'robots'.

Ronin1

17

Guilt and Infidelilty

by lisavegas420 in

recently a poster shared with us that her father had committed infidelity.

then 3-5 years later, decides he can no longer live with the guilt and confesses to his wife.

he alone with his actions turned the entire family upside down.

ronin1

This is Ronin1. I have not been on the forum for months because we have relocated to Hollywood, Florida and have been very busy. But I had to respond to this post when I read it. He should have confessed a long time ago. I am thinking more of the medical and physical harm he could have brought to his wife-that of STD's . If for three (3) to five (5) years or after she started having infections or problems, such as HPV-which may not show up for years or HIV, etc., could be because of his infidelity and he could have given it to her. HPV may not show up for years and it can cause serious problems later in life. And we all know what HIV does. Ruining his family is not the only problem he may have done. Ronin1

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DID CLARA GET JUSTICE?

by MYOHNSEPH in

jw
friends

a dentist from houston, clara harris, was found guilty of murder and sentenced to twenty years yesterday, for running over her husband with her mercedes and killing him, in a fit of rage, after confronting him and his girlfriend in a local hotel.

now mrs. harris already knew about her husband's infidelity with the other woman, had even discussed with her husband how the two of them compared, and was apparently still trying to salvage their marriage.

but after the confrontation inside the hotel, she lost it and ultimately ran him over multiple times with her automobile, killing him.

ronin1

Hi Guest77:

No guns, clubs, weapons, etc.

I am only 45 years old. I have too much living to do.

Like I said, I like my freedom too-----------much to through it away for any man. Where's there's one man, there's another.

Now that doesn't mean that I do not love my husband, I do. But I look at things differently. I was a single parent for 15 years and took care of myself. I will not die or lose it if I am alone again. So if my husband or any man does not love me enough to be faithful, so be it.

I will survive.

Ronin1

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DID CLARA GET JUSTICE?

by MYOHNSEPH in

jw
friends

a dentist from houston, clara harris, was found guilty of murder and sentenced to twenty years yesterday, for running over her husband with her mercedes and killing him, in a fit of rage, after confronting him and his girlfriend in a local hotel.

now mrs. harris already knew about her husband's infidelity with the other woman, had even discussed with her husband how the two of them compared, and was apparently still trying to salvage their marriage.

but after the confrontation inside the hotel, she lost it and ultimately ran him over multiple times with her automobile, killing him.

ronin1

Plain and simple: she lost it. After obviously a long period of time dealing with his infidelity, she saw him with his girlfriend/lover and lost her reasoning and just killed him. Should she have done that? No. She should have cleaned him out financially with a divorce.

My husband and I were discussing this just this morning and he said would I do that to him if he committed adultery. I told him I would not waste my time or energies giving up my freedom and going to jail for him. I told him if he wanted to do that, just "knock" himself out and go ahead. Of course, I said, I would leave you in a second because any mate who does that deliberately doesn't not deserve me and I would not stand for anyone to disrespect me like that.

Bottom line: I like my freedom too--------much to go to jail for any man.

Ronin1

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Jan 2003 KM - "Send us your $'s electronic...

by Funchback in

page 3, under 'announcements', last bulletpoint:.

"for those who wish to make donations to the worldwide work electronically, a set of instructions is available to explain this arrangement.

for further information, call or write to watch tower, office of the secretary and treasurer, 25 columbia heights, brooklyn, new york 11201-2483, (718) 560-5000.

ronin1

How special.

How convenient.

Hey!! I'm broke. You think I can get the Borg to send me some monies electronically into my checking account?

It's possible I may turn blue waiting.

(Laugh!!!)

Ronin1

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I WAN'T TO COME BACK TO THE TRUTH.....!

by rich_1961 in

jw
friends

hello everyone.my name is richard and i would like to come back to the truth.i never did get baptized so im not disfellowshiped.my family are still all in the truth,and there lives are so much better than mine.satan has taked over my life completly.and ive had enough.i want to turn my life around and ask jehovah to come back into my heart.i have a very serious drug and alcohol problem.and do not want to live my life like this anymore.i know my life will get better if i let jehovah back in.im just scarred right now.i sill have a little deamon that keeps telling me not to do this.but i really want to.i sure could use some words of encouragement if anyone would like to help i sure would apriciate it.and does anyone know if i can get publcations online...?

my e-mail addy is [email protected] if anyne would like to e-mail me

ronin1

Hi Rich:

If you want to get better, you do not need to "come back to the truth". What you need to do is get your life spiritually back to Jehovah God based on the Bible, not a religious organization. That means coming to terms with what you need to do to correct your situation and certainly praying to Jehovah God to give you the strength to do so. The Watchtower organization will not help you do this. Only you can take the steps to correct your bad habits and make yourself a better person.

Please enroll in a drug/alcohol program to get you straight along with therapy. Believe me, the Watchtower organization will not help you or encourage you to do this. Only you can along with prayer to Jehovah God.

Ronin1

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Come on! NOTHING is Going To Refrom the WT!

by D8TA in

jw
friends

this whole "reform" nonsense is driving me up the wall.. nothing is going to "reform" the wtbts.

nobody is going to "reform" the wtbts.. crying out loud, be realistic about this.

we have a group of men who have at least some faith & belief that what they do is "divinely" approved, and they have 6 million suckers who follow.

ronin1

The only "reform" is when we as individuals come into the "light" and realize the WTS is not the true religion.

Then "we" "reform" ourselves and make the necessary changes not to be "suckered" by the WTS.

Ronin1