robert pevy said the disfellowshipping practice was a good thing.
he will be the first to be disfellowshipped this month by jehovah.. he will have trouble writing, speaking and breathing.. "deserved kindness of god upon you.".
iw.
Robert Pevy is a WTS "puppet" who could and would not be able to function if not controlled by WTS.
When my two (2) brothers, my former sister-in-law, and myself met with Robert Pevy and the "not-so-great" JR Brown at Bethel regarding my brother's (who was an elder) case, Pevy revealed the "puppet" that he is.
I hope he gets disfellowshiped. He needs a taste of his own opinion medicine.
Ronin1
once again a hard line is being taken on shunning disfellowshipped and disassociated ones.
perhaps this is some sort of backlash against the recent adverse dateline publicity in the us, the forthcoming pananorama programme in the uk and problems with a number of influential ones leaving the organization.
the text below is from the august km insert and the meeting part is to be handled by a "well qualified" elder with the paragraphs being read by a "capable reader".
Francois:
You do mean scattered around Satan's kingdom, right?
They certainly would not even qualify to be dismembered and scattered around God's Kingdom.
But before they are dismembered, I am trying to think of what other tortures could be inflicted upon them.
Ronin1
besides the scandal of the three missing chapters (especially the blood one) that are in the old book "united in worship of the only true god".
(1983) and are clearly missing from the new book: "worship the only true god.
1. i make a covenant with you for a kingdom.
Hi Minimus:
This is my take on why they deleted the following chapters:
"I make a Covenant with you for a Kingdom"-
I believe the WTS can no longer support their 144,000 doctrine and that only JW's belong in that number. Nor can they really state how many are left of the "anointed" here on earth.
"What the Mosiac Law Means to You"-
They (WTS) have "flipped/flopped" so much on their teaching Bible principles regarding military and compulsorary service, that they had to delete this chapter.
"Life and Blood-Do you treat them as sacred?"-
They (WTS) having changed their doctrine so-----many times on the blood transfusion issues (cannot take blood, can take some blood components, telling government authorities they do not punish persons in their organization if they do take blood transfusions, actually punishing persons in their organization for taking blood transfusions, plain out telling lies......) that the only thing they could legally do was to delete that chapter.
That's my partial take on it. I still have to go over the entire book.
Ronin1
once again a hard line is being taken on shunning disfellowshipped and disassociated ones.
perhaps this is some sort of backlash against the recent adverse dateline publicity in the us, the forthcoming pananorama programme in the uk and problems with a number of influential ones leaving the organization.
the text below is from the august km insert and the meeting part is to be handled by a "well qualified" elder with the paragraphs being read by a "capable reader".
I have three (3) siblings who are either disfellowshiped or disassociated. And I'll be damned if anyone tells me not to associate with or talk to them.
For many years I obeyed that crap from the WTS but not anymore.
They are my family and always will be and I will not let any Bible talking/teaching/preaching organization come between my family and myself.
They (WTS) can take all the hardline/hardball tactics they want.
Actually, now when I think about it, they (WTS) should be disfellowshiped and disassociated permanently.
Ronin1
for saturday's coverage, click here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=31702&site=3.
sunday:.
walk to bus (10 blocks or so).
Listening to Sydlik's prayer on Sunday afternoon made me tired and discusted.
Right after his long-winded reading from a script prayer was over, I said to my husband that he probably had not given a talk in a long time and needed to vent.
Then after his long-winded reading from a script prayer was over, all in the audience kept clapping and clapping and clapping.
My husband and I immediately walked up the stairs and left the convention site.
P.S.-This was one of the most boring assemblies I have ever attended.
I picked the talks I decided to go to sleep on and the ones I decided to go to my car and relax.
Ronin1
my sister just called me at work to let me know that her husband (until recently, unsympathetic to her doubts) is thoroughly confused and pissed off by the new 'worship' book!.
he has been comparing it with the 'united' book, has noted the obvious differences (3 missing chapters), and has begun examining it word for word...now he is raving looney about it.. to top it off, they were at bethel within the last few days, somehow ended up in brother larson's personal office, and were astonished to find a model spanish galleon replete with huge crosses, and a huge portrait of good ol' max towering over the watchtower itself.
she said her husband thought it looked like a propaganda poster for 'big brother'..... finally!
We have already been to the convention.
The new book: "Worship the Only True God" is a remake of the old book: "United in Worship of the Only True God".
When the announcement was made at the convention, it was introduced as a "simplified" version.
The three (3) chapters not included from the old book are:
Chapter 14- "I make a Covenant With You for a Kingdom"
( probably to change their doctrine on the 144,000 and
Christ's Rulership date)
Chapter 19- "What the Mosaic Law Means to You"
(they alreadly flipped-flopped on military service-
saying compulsory service is ok for JWs)
Chapter 20- "Life and Blood-Do You Treat Them as Sacred?"
(they already changed on the blood issue, saying its
ok to transfuse certain components, etc).
I did not get a chance to look at all the chapters in the new book, but of the ones I did notice that they changed some paragraphs around, added or deleted some scriptures. But the book looks basically the same as the old except for the deletion of the above chapters.
Ronin1
The reason why I cannot stand Jaracz is because as publisher I personally spoke with him on the phone for
twenty (20) minutes about my brother, an elder,who was having a problem with the elders in our local congregation. The Service Department would not correct the matter, in fact, they turned on my brother.
Jaracz was a complete jerk and told me that the GB members do not get involved with local problems. They leave that up to the service department because they are too busy traveling around the world to give talks and help the other brothers in other countries.
Now, go figure that out.
He is a GB member, supposedly one of the "anointed", and he does not have the time to look into a problem with the so-called shepherds in the Christ's earthly congregation.
After that conversation with Jaracz, I lost all respect for the so-called GB members and whatever they profess to know or do.
Ronin1
post a favorite thing quote comment your c.o.
(outlandish or outrageous) .
the last one i had was talking about how he had to move around.
Hey Worf:
Anything coming out of that co's mouth would not surprise me.
Ronin1
the recent supreme court decision hasn't converted stratton, ohio residents to jws.
as a matter of fact, they remain stalwart against jehovism.. check:.
http://www.cnn.com/2002/us/06/18/scotus.jehovah.switne.ap/index.html
The Great Big WTS must be really desparate for attention when it has to pick on a small town like this. And the town law was really not to hurt the JW's. They should have seen it as a protection should something happened their whereabouts would be known and possibly they would not get accused of anything.
I hope this Supreme Court ruling backfires in the Great Big WTS face.
Ronin1
last saturday, a former ministerial servant and pioneer committed suicide in the woodinville washington kingdom hall parking lot.
he was disfellowshipped several years ago, and according to the old sister that related the story to me today, he was depressed because no one would talk to him.
i don't know how i kept calm when she explained to me that "we couldn't talk to him...he was disfellowshipped.".
THIS REPLY IS TO YOU KNOW:
I do not know where you come from or how your brain thinks.
But if you can speak so callously of those who have committed suicide that were JW's ( and by personal experience many feel very bad for get DF'D-to the point of wanting to die) you need to get off this post and post elsewhere, say like the Watchtower's post.
Your comments are dispicable and hurtful.
Go rethink yourself.
Ronin1
