Can this legally apply to those who were baptized before the Baptism questions were amended?
I was baptized in 1974 when the original wording was used?
Anyone have a legal answer for this?
Ronin1
"on the basis of this faith in god and in his provision for.
salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to do.
gods will henceforth as he reveals to you through.
Can this legally apply to those who were baptized before the Baptism questions were amended?
I was baptized in 1974 when the original wording was used?
Anyone have a legal answer for this?
Ronin1
my brother is giving a public talk today.
my mom is acting as if the pope has arrived.
she planning a bbq afterwards.
Go. It cannot hurt.
It will make your mom feel good and show support for your brother in his endeavors.
Ronin1
i just got the confirmation she is getting out!!!.
she was in combat competition(won for her team) but she broke her wrist and thumb...and shattered her knuckle.. .
so they gave her a choice.........as they knew she wanted out.
Excellent.
That's good news.
Ronin1
elders stopped by yesterday they want to come over monday and talk to me.
i have been df'ed about a year now, they said my dad was wondering why no one was stoppping by to see me.
it was really hard cause i grew up with these guys and i know they are good guys.
Since you are already DFD, they have not hold on you, whatsoever.
If you want to talk with them, let them know you have no interest in returning and thank them for their concern.
If they press you about why you have not interest in returning, advise them that your religious feelings are personal between you and Almighty God and you do not wish to discuss religion or politics.
That should be sufficient.
Ronin1
the ny brewfest presented by heartland brewery will be held on friday september 8th 2006 from 5:00pm until 10:00pm in new york city at south street seaports pier 16 & 17. the festival is a celebration to recognize the nys beer trail and showcase samplings from new york states 58 outstanding breweries.
we have also partnered with the pride of ny to showcase food and wine producers from new york state.. .
the festival is sanctioned by the nys brewers association and endorsed by the nys department to agriculture and markets the pride of new york farmers marketplace.
I wish we were still in NY.
Ronin1
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very sad .
such an enthusiastic / passionate guy.. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/5311298.stm.
It's about 10:00 AM EST in Hollywood, FL this morning and we just heard on the TV news about this tragedy.
The news also reported that his wife has not even been notified yet because she is in another country hiking. I feel so sorry for her and their children and to know she has to come home to hear this sad news. It's heartbreaking.
Ronin1
i have come across some old threads that make various accusations against rayfranz, but i think on the whole he seems a kind and thoughtful person.
he didn't do everything right, and he is no saint as some make out: his expulsion is a bit flatteringly called a "crisis of conscience", but he came to terms with the disorienting situation well and did a service to all involved with the witnesses by giving us a look behind the curtain.
some of the things that people hold against him it seems:.
If it wasn't for Ray Franz revealing the inside workings of the organization and his own personal experiences, my husband and I might still be 'brainwashed' dubs.
He made mistakes while in the organization, but so did all of us.
His greatest contribution to our spiritual education and awareness was COC and Christian Freedom.
He is indeed a 'good man'.
Ronin1
where are you in flordia?.
are you boarding up.
or are you packing up?
We live in Hollywood, FL (Broward County).
Right now it is 10:37 pm and just heavy rains. TS Ernesto is just a lot of rain. No severe Hurrican as was predicted.
We are fine.
Ronin1
have any of you had the experience of eating with the bethel family?.
what were some of the idiosyncrasies of it?.
as i mentioned before in another thread, it was brought up to me by another jw guest after the meal that it was "as if this was like a cult" when everyone would drop their utensils on que, stand up in unison and end the meal with a prayer.
My husband and I have eaten at Bethel in Brooklyn NY and at the time, I thought all those oddities and rituals were so spiritual, etc.
Now I realized how cultish those actions were and how truly brainwashed many are in the org.
Ronin1
i am angry because my adult children who are active jw's think i should be dead or suffer for not being a witness and i supported them comfortably and they shunned me and show hate i am sad and probably won't do the chemo thing and just let nature take its course.
any ideas?
i am taking pain meds so this is probably messed up with my message help.
Take care of yourself and do not let your blood family members attitudes and lack of support rob you of your chance to live longer and healthier.
Remember that they are brainwashed and cannot see past what the borg has taught them.
Love yourself..............
Ronin1