These terrorist should have read their history books, particularly the section on Pearl Harbor. The US won’t be telling Israelis to use restraint anymore and will join them in kicking some ass. Americans will demand action and we’ll get it, BIG TIME.
roybatty
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A brief summary of life as one of JW's
by Angst inthank you stacey and individual's wife!
i appreciate your comments and encouragement.
the ex-witnesses i am in communication with are family and they are very hateful towards the witnesses.
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Where in the Chicagoland area are/were you from?
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JC FILE NOTES - What do they contain?
by Amazing injc file notes - what do they contain?
jones.. 15. brother smith would tell bro.
smith noted too that bro.
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>>Yonger, newer, and less experienced Elders tend to be pricks. But, I have known some who remain idiots and hardhearted even into their advanced years.<<
It always did amaze me how cruel some elders could be. There always was one elder on the JC who wanted to throw the book at the poor sap. I think one of the most pathetic JC I served on was df'ing a 16 year old kid for smoking. Yeah, he had been warned before but what purpose served by all of this?
I also felt weird when I sat there and this person sitting in front of me would go into detail confessing this sin that they had done. Here I am, a 28 year old punk listening to some woman tell me about her meeting her boss at a motel. I would think to myself "you need more help then I can provide." -
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Judicial hearing notes
by roybatty inafter being disfellowshipped or disassociated, has anyone ever gone back and asked the local elders to destroy the meeting notes from the judicial hearing?
as a former elder, i know that meeting notes arent necessarily kept private and i dont particularly care that they are accessible to someone who is determined to see them.
just wondering if anyone else has been bothered by this and taken action.
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Thanks for the feedback Amazing. I remember when I was a “newbie” elder and was being assigned to my first judicial one of the other elders told me that I should “look through the files” this way I’d know what to expect. So stupid me, I did. So there I am in the elder’s room reading what brother so and so did and what sister so and so did. Wow. Lots of juicy stuff. Fast forward to the CO’s visit and guess what I happen to mention? My little research through the JC notes. Then the CO goes off on me. Big time! (And rightfully so). Not wanting to be a snitch I do not mention that one of the more experienced elders suggested that I do what I did.
Anyway, not that my JC case has anything interesting (apostasy) but it just irks me a little that they have this “record” on me. I wonder if I should call the Society direct and ask to have them destroyed or should I call the local PO. Or should I just forget about the whole thing.
Kind of a side note. It’s funny to see the JW’s that I read about in the JC notes. I’ll “bump” into them around town and the cold, heartless stare they have is almost inhuman. I start giggling to myself, if they only knew what I know about them. -
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When and Where D'fed or such....
by StifflersErSlayersBrother ina while back there was a post on when/where baptised... i thought i'd do the complete opposite :).
as for me.... sometime in the near future maybe
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DA'd in October of 2000 for joining the local YMCA.
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Judicial hearing notes
by roybatty inafter being disfellowshipped or disassociated, has anyone ever gone back and asked the local elders to destroy the meeting notes from the judicial hearing?
as a former elder, i know that meeting notes arent necessarily kept private and i dont particularly care that they are accessible to someone who is determined to see them.
just wondering if anyone else has been bothered by this and taken action.
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After being disfellowshipped or disassociated, has anyone ever gone back and asked the local elders to destroy the meeting notes from the judicial hearing? As a former elder, I know that meeting notes aren’t necessarily kept private and I don’t particularly care that they are accessible to someone who is determined to see them. Just wondering if anyone else has been bothered by this and taken action.
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Not sure I can handle the anger anymore
by professor ini am over 30 and have been out of the "organization" for almost 14 years now.
my father is an elder who's main concern is kissing up to the c.o.
so he can move up the ranks and be important.
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Professor,
I haven’t been out for 14 years, just a couple but I know what you’re feeling. I was raised a JW, worked my way through the ranks, married a JW pioneer and lastly became an elder at the ripe old age of 28. Not to long after the lies and falsehood of the WT came to light and I left. Wife divorced me because I was a “spiritual threat” and my family (like yours) shuns me. I still find it hard to believe that my mom especially does this. Even my brother who indirectly works for me shuns me, keeping every conversation that we have to have short and about business. Like you, this anger boiled inside me. What helped me was what a co-worker told me. He said “be nice to them, it’s like a bomb.” At first I had to force myself to be nice. I would greet my brother and other JW family members in a warm way on the rare occasions we saw each other. I even did this to other JW’s I saw around town. The look on their faces! It blew them away! If you act rude toward them or angry, they will say “see! Look at what happens when you leave the truth.” Another thing I did was write a simple letter to my parents telling them that I love them very much and that are always welcome to call me. I also told them of my faith in true Christianity. I’m not a big believer in self-help books but one that was recommended to me and help heal the wounds I had was “The Road Less Traveled.” Check it out. Lots of good info.
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Ex-elder, recent DA'd from the western suburbs of Chicago here. Ah! It's so good to be free!!!
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To Rick on H2O...
by Simon ini just posted this on h2o and though i'd put a copy here as well.... hi rick,.
i just thought it may be appropriate for me to express my appreciation for your site and what you have accomplished over the last few years and i'm sure will continue to do.. like many others, h2o was one of the sites which helped to open my eyes to the watchtower society and beliefs and practices of jehovahs witnesses and realise that there were things seriously wrong which a lot of other people saw as well - it wasn't just limited to our local congregation.. i did participate on h2o occasionally as caliban but never really kept up-to-date with all the posters, personalities and what was going on between them.. the reason i decided to create an alternative forum, www.jehovahs-witness.com, was because at the time it appeared that the very pro-jw community was well served by witnet and the anti-jw's had h2o but that it may have been a bit too much for the 'mildly curious' jw to visit.
my idea was to have a forum more like witnet which would gradually allow more open discussion than was allowed there without being too off putting to many as a way of introducing the issues to them more gently.. i'm sure your views and standpoints have changed over the years and mine have too.
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I too loved the old H20 site. The threads were easy to follow and you could reply to a specific thread or even start a new one under an existing one. When the old H20 shut down and the new one started, I also found it slow to load and kind of hard to navigate, so I came here.
I do miss all of the people from H20. There were some interesting ones there!roybatty
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What to do...
by onthefence inwell im going to be unpopular here.
i am still in jw orginization, in fact i just went to a meeting tonight and even had the privlege of caring microphones.
i'm being set up as an example in the congregation...and guess what else...i dont believe anything!!
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OTF,
Be glad of one thing, that you're having these questions and the opputunity to leave BEFORE you start your own family. If you just "go with the flow" for a few years, move up the congregations ladder, get married, have kids, etc. believe me, you'll still have the same questions only it will be worse! Be happy that your decision will mostly effect only you.
Regarding your questions, be honest but cautious with people. I'm not a Bible thumper but Jesus did give us a good example. When he knew someone was trying to trap him versus someone who had an honest question, he answered accordingly. Your parents might have some honest questions for you. Most elders, however, will be more concerned with "protecting" the congregation. If you were like me, it was probably drilled into you that disobeying the elders was like disobeying God since you were not listening to those whom He uses. The first thing you need to do is get this bs thought out of your mind. You have every right to truly explore other religions. Go for it! Above all, be honest with yourself. Don't lie just for the sake of not wanting to hurt someone else's feelings.