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  If they can shun......so can I

  by KAYTEE in

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  let me first say that i believe in god, in jesus and the holy spirit.

  therefore to hear the watchtower liken us who have been df, ( in our case asking questions about u.n. paedophiles 607 etc ) liken us to the first apostate the devil i find them judgmental in the extreme, not surprised but very offensive.. thanks to "flipper" with his thread i have decided to ban my brother in law from coming to my home, this year he intends to come over from spain where the need is great, ............the wine.and the beaches very nice too.. he is going to visit his mother who now because of dementia lives with us.. he will not be allowed on my premises at all, he will pick mum up at the front gate.. as a witness you must accept what the so called boffins tell you.. therefore if he can align himself with thinking that way, of his sister and myself then he is not welcome.. i will only accept him in my home when he gets out of her (babylon the great).

  kt.

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  KAYTEE

  Hi Gang,

  I respect ALL of your comments, obviously you don’t know all the story but I am grateful for your wise words.

  I must say I am impressed with the way you can turn the other cheek, something I am not too good at doing when confronted with JW thinking (unless an apology arrives of course).

  Live and let live seams the way !

  But by our constant care for mum I think we are helpng to prolong her life.

  We know left on her own, after her husband died, she defiantly would have died also.

  This goes against the JW’s thinking …….They want her to die BEFORE Armageddon, so that she can have a resurrection.

  She has a faith (Catholic) at 93 not going to change, plus her abhorrence of JW's

  KT
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  If they can shun......so can I

  by KAYTEE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let me first say that i believe in god, in jesus and the holy spirit.

  therefore to hear the watchtower liken us who have been df, ( in our case asking questions about u.n. paedophiles 607 etc ) liken us to the first apostate the devil i find them judgmental in the extreme, not surprised but very offensive.. thanks to "flipper" with his thread i have decided to ban my brother in law from coming to my home, this year he intends to come over from spain where the need is great, ............the wine.and the beaches very nice too.. he is going to visit his mother who now because of dementia lives with us.. he will not be allowed on my premises at all, he will pick mum up at the front gate.. as a witness you must accept what the so called boffins tell you.. therefore if he can align himself with thinking that way, of his sister and myself then he is not welcome.. i will only accept him in my home when he gets out of her (babylon the great).

  kt.

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  KAYTEE

  Let me first say that I believe in God, in Jesus and the Holy spirit

  Therefore to hear the watchtower liken us who have been df, ( in our case asking questions about U.N. paedophiles 607 etc ) liken us to the first apostate the devil I find them judgmental in the extreme, not surprised but very offensive.

  Thanks to "flipper" with his thread I have decided to ban my brother in law from coming to my home, this year he intends to come over from Spain where the need is great, …………the wine.and the beaches very nice too.

  He is going to visit his mother who now because of dementia lives with us.

  He will not be allowed on my premises at all, he will pick mum up at the front gate.

  As a witness you must accept what the so called boffins tell you.

  Therefore if he can align himself with thinking that way, of his sister and myself then he is NOT WELCOME.

  I will only accept him in my home when he gets out of her (Babylon the great)

  KT
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  Is it possible that the WT society will soon collapse like a house of cards?

  by BonaFide in

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  the recent internet phenomenon seems to be that 1. some news story breaks, and then 2. people start talking about it and twittering and forwarding emails about it.

  and then it multiplies and multiplies until finally, 3. the whole world is talking about it.

  the same with the madoff scheme.

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  KAYTEE

  I hope I live long enough to see it, but I think they have too many aces up their sleeves.

  We need someone with all the trump cards…………………I wonder!!!!!

  KT
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  What Happens When Someone Who Is DF'd Dies A Day Before The DF'ing Announcement Is Made?

  by african GB Member in

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  do the elders still go ahead and announce?.

  does it go like : '"--------" is no longer one of jehovah's witnesses', and by the way he died yesterday.. or do they show jehovah's 'loving kindness' and not say anything about the poor dead soul?.

  gb.

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  KAYTEE

  He/she will probably be granted a posthumous DF

  as they have not attended they will not be allowed to appeal.

  KT
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  First post after lurking on the sidelines

  by onefootout in

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  i've been lurking on the sidelines for a while and have decided to jump in and introduce myself.

  the name kinda gives it away.

  i'm a lifer who got a shocker about a year ago by stumbling across the 607 baloney.

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  KAYTEE

  onefootout,

  Well done for seeing them for what they are.

  Are you going to change your name?

  KT
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  Special Bible talk entitled: “IS THERE A TRUE RELIGION FROM GOD’S STANDPOINT?” - Coming to a Kingdom Hall near you on Sunday, April 26, 2009

  by LUKEWARM in

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  the latest instalment is coming to convince everybody that there is only one channel - one god approved religion!.

  so folks, what arguments do you think the wts will use to "prove" that there is a true religion from god's standpoint?.

  lukewarm.

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  KAYTEE

  John 5 v 30,

  I cannot do a SINGLE thing of my own initiative, just as I hear I judge, and the judgement that I render is righteous, because I seek not my own will but the will of he that sent me.

  On this scripture alone they fail.

  KT
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  Ray Franz on Fear Among JWs

  by compound complex in

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  to this day, in all countries, any persons among jehovah's witnesses who find they cannot conscientiously support fully the organization's teachings or practices live in a climate of fear, feeling they must constantly be on guard as to what they say, what they do, what they read, with whom they associate, from whom they receive letters, not feeling any sense of freedom even when among personal friends or close relatives if these are also witnesses.

  as stated, in my personal experience i have had people phone who were afraid to give their name or who felt it necessary to use a fictitious name, some who even felt it necessary to take out a special post office box to be able to correspond without danger of their correspondence with me or other former witnesses being discovered.

  they face a form of "hostage" situation, produced by the organization's authority.

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  c c,

  We, who had misgivings about the witnesses when involved with them, needed someone like Ray.

  He was able to take the fear out of the doctrines of the society, allowing us to make a better assessment of them, without the fear of the ground opening up and swallowing us.

  My wife and I read both his books, it was when my wife realised that the G.B. were very very ordinary and not inspired that finished my wife’s dedication to them.

  C.C. good thread allowing us yet again to thank "RAY" very much.

  KT
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  April 15th WT- Satan = Apostates = Critical Towards Brothers = Shun Them

  by flipper in

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  wow.

  and so the wt society tightens down the screwdriver a bit more !

  one of my wife and my lurking jw friends sent us this article which has some very pointed words in it inciting all jehovah's witnesses to take an even harder line view of apostates in this recent april 15th wt.. on pg.

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  KAYTEE

  boyzone,

  flipper,

  30years in the Org. did not hear the thoughtfulness that you have shown.

  They displayed, quite expertly, a hard side of life that I found disturbing.

  It wasn’t the sympathy that I was looking for, it was the judgmental way these witnesses look at things, but a big thank you anyway.

  KT
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  Is The WT A Religion Or a Business?

  by Bangalore in

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  many claim that the watchtower organization is a business disguised as a religion?

  is this the most accurate way to describe it?

  or would you say it is a religious institution with some corporate or business strategies thrown in?.

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  "ALL RELIGIONS ARE A SNARE AND A RACKET"

  Where have I heard that before.

  Sounds very much like the businesses of today

  KT
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  Could the Holy Spirit Lead in Opposition to the "Spirit-Directed" Organization?

  by compound complex in

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  of course, i realize that not all members of the board would have a belief-basis to answer the above.. for the sake of discussion, however, do you see examples - biblical [applicable in our day] or extra-biblical - wherein an individual intent on serving god in loyalty and truth could be directed by his spirit to act courageously against the society's enforced "conscience"?.

  thanks.. coco .

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  KAYTEE

  The book, "Organized to accomplish our ministry

  Page 32…. "They would be individuals who have the COURAGE to speak up when wrongdoing exists and take the needed action to correct it and thus protect the flock from any who would exploit them"

  This is one I used against the elders many a time, they didn’t like it one bit, when you used the society’s own words

  This was my spirit, spirit of exasperation at the elders.

  KT