Posts by JWTom

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Many Jw’s Love to Speculate About the New System

by Davros in

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a comment on another thread cracked me up where the poster related what some elder said on the platform that: .

in the new system, we likely will not have genitals.” lol.

i’ve heard so much speculation from many jw’s on what will and won’t be allowed in the new system.

JWTom

Similar thoughts. I have always thought about how things are portrayed in "new system" images. All modern conveniences available, everyone looks straight out of 2020 with many modern conveniences including kiln dried lumber, modern pottery and many other construction/building conveniences.

When I talk to other JWs about this topic I tell them you need to think in terms of a house from the 1800s, animals for transportation and farming/raising livestock for food. Heating/cooking with wood. No air conditioning. On and on and on....

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The latest “special” campaign!

by DATA-DOG in

well, here ya go.... dd 🙄.

https://www.8newsnow.com/community/jehovahs-witnesses-begin-global-campaign-distribute-electronic-magazine-in-november/.

JWTom

There is nothing special about anything labeled "special" in JW land. Even many of the r and f ask why is something special.....when the content is a different version of the something presented every year with just some different language or spin on the topics.

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2020 Meeting Content/Schedule - Anyone know what is coming?

by JWTom in

hello all - no 2020 midweek meeting content has been published yet.

anyone know or hear of what will be changed for 2020 due to the pandemic?

even my pimi family (i am pimo) is scratching their heads wondering why we are still reviewing content from 2017-2019 that talk about all the future plans, field service, etc etc etc....that have all been derailed due to covid-19.

JWTom

Can someone have Atlantis share the printed version of the Jan/Feb Workbook to talk a look?

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2020 Meeting Content/Schedule - Anyone know what is coming?

by JWTom in

hello all - no 2020 midweek meeting content has been published yet.

anyone know or hear of what will be changed for 2020 due to the pandemic?

even my pimi family (i am pimo) is scratching their heads wondering why we are still reviewing content from 2017-2019 that talk about all the future plans, field service, etc etc etc....that have all been derailed due to covid-19.

JWTom

Hello All - No 2020 midweek meeting content has been published yet. Anyone know or hear of what will be changed for 2020 due to the pandemic? Even my PIMI family (i am PIMO) is scratching their heads wondering why we are still reviewing content from 2017-2019 that talk about all the future plans, field service, etc etc etc....that have all been derailed due to Covid-19.

I am hoping for a one a week meeting for everything to simplify the arrangement!

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wt organizationthimk (last week's study)

by waton in

for those who want to see how bad it really is, 2 thoughts: .

1) the article says "jehovah" gave gifts in men, but the bible in gal: 6 clearly mentions the one who ascended into heaven as the one, jesus, their reigning king, that does provides these " the captives.. of course when wt writers say jehovah they really mean the wt society.

and local elders, ms, really are wt appointees, now done by the co, a man with no assets.

JWTom

fastJEHU

There is NO difference between "inspired" and "guided by spirit".

Exactly, there is no difference. So many are brainwashed into just believing whatever is said even if it is contradictory....it is insane!

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What's the Latest re How JW's are Associating and Preaching?

by mikronboy in

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i've been out of the loop for a while so some things have passed me by.

so i'm curious how jw's are affected by the covid virus.

are they still preaching or having meetings etc?.

JWTom

All good comments, even PIMI JWs are starting to wonder "where is this all going" as the org. has not responded tot he pandemic in any meaningful way. All of the online and meeting content to date is basically the same as 2019...no adjustments at all for the 2020 pandemic experience.

There is a recent article that says the celestial chariot responds immediately and adjusts. Where is the adjustment in messaging related to meetings and video content....nothing!

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Is Watchtower meant to be an actual shelter from reality

by ToyFish in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yciaw0m2-nqi'm a former member that has been out for the past few months and have been doing a lot of personal research.

i've been having mixed feelings about the gb whether or not their intentions are good or not.

the fact they have a protocol of moral lying through "theocratic warfare" very much turned me off from having anything to do with the org.

JWTom

BlueBrother: Also, if you are an aging person or having aging parents (like I do) you very quickly hit a cement wall of reality when they have no money, no help and no resources to deal with old age. Many, many baby boom JWs are hitting this reality and the org. has got nothing for them at the end of a life giving everything to the WTBTS.

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Always Obey

by neat blue dog in

the life story in the latest wt has a running theme that keeps popping up: if the organization tells you to do something, you do it.

this culminates in the following anecdote:.

we were staying in abrother’s home right next to a kingdom hall.. .

JWTom

Much of what the organization is publishing at this point is contradictory and your insane (or an idiot) if you can comprehend it. Even my PIMI father has expressed concern the org. has driven off a cliff related to what people inside think. His best example is the endless meetings that continue in the middle of a pandemic that indicate the pandemic has not happened. I told him the example of the celestial chariot having a flat tire and he had a good laugh about that.

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wt organizationthimk (last week's study)

by waton in

for those who want to see how bad it really is, 2 thoughts: .

1) the article says "jehovah" gave gifts in men, but the bible in gal: 6 clearly mentions the one who ascended into heaven as the one, jesus, their reigning king, that does provides these " the captives.. of course when wt writers say jehovah they really mean the wt society.

and local elders, ms, really are wt appointees, now done by the co, a man with no assets.

JWTom

The article in last Sunday's WT also went back to saying that these men are appointed by Holy Spirit. Which the org. has been waffling on for quite some time now. I find it hilarious that the org. goes back and forth between saying that no one on earth is "Inspired by Holy Spirit" anymore. I have sat 3 feet away from a current GB member and he told me....GB are not inspired! But then in articles and talks....everything is being done by holy spirit and all decisions are done by holy spirit...

So which is it, holy spirit is helping everyone make decisions or no one is inspired by holy spirit???? LOL

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Today's WT Study: "Return to Jehovah" - Lots of Elephants in the Room

by Room 215 in

today's article prods active jws to participate in the effort to reactivate us backsliders.. unfortunately, it fails to prepare the participants to adequately address the real reasons so many have left and want nothing frtherethan to be left alone: the un and child abuse scandals, prophetic failures; dumbed-down, increasingly specious and simplistic verbiage in literature and talks, the cult of personality and unwarranted veneration of those 8 singularly unremarkable members of the gb, etc., etc..

JWTom

FedUpJW

My thought was that JW policies, rules and traditions are very effective at getting people out of the organization. The ministry brings in very few. If the GB would think to have an accountant or organizational strategy person help them out they would learn that reducing the number of things that cause people to leave....would greatly increase the "growth" of the organization long-term.