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  Resurrection of the men of Sodom and Gomorrah...the complete story

  by MacHislopp in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  sometime ago a friend of mine was very surprised when i did tell him about the many changes concerning the resurrection of the men from sodom and gomlorrah.

  he didn't want to accept just the statements i.e.

  yes/no + publication + date, so to make him a much happier person i did send him this:

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  *** Ezekiel 13:8-9 ***
  Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said: "‘For the reason that YOU men have spoken untruth and YOU have visioned a lie, therefore here I am against YOU,’ is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah." And my hand has come to be against the prophets that are visioning untruth and that are divining a lie. In the intimate group of my people they will not continue on.

  *** Psalms 107:27 ***

  They reel and move unsteadily like a drunken man, And even all their wisdom proves confused.

  *** Galatians 2:18 ***

  For if the very things that I once threw down I build up again, I demonstrate myself to be a transgressor.

  *** James 1:7, 8 ***

  In fact, let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from Jehovah; 8 he is an indecisive man, unsteady in all his ways.
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  What's with all the 'Imminent' nonsense?

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  could it be that the proximity of 2014 is at the heart of it?.

  i have no contact with jw's - except on this board - but my wife does at times with her family.

  imminent is the cry of the sky for the jw's it seems.. i recall the years leading up to 1975 with a lot of that sort of thing.

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  *** w64 3/1 pp. 143-144 par. 1 Youth, Get Saved from This Crooked Generation ***

  "What makes these the grandest of times in which to be alive with all the vigor and promise of youth is that there is now imminent a vaster change in man’s way of life than that resulting from the deluge of Noah’s day. That great transformation of earthly conditions, however, will not come about without first our earth’s experiencing “great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now.” (Matt. 24:21) Happy will those be who survive that tribulation and live to enjoy the peace and happiness that will replace the present chaotic way of life."

  Who can find an older reference?

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  Now I'm not a JW, is it ok for me to...

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...drink a lot?

  gosh i love wine.

  i like a good bottle of wine each night, and i have a high tolerance to alcohol, though i never drank much (except for a couple of times with the vodka, but i don't keep that stuff in the house anymore, way too dangerous) as a jw because getting slightly happy is a 'sin'.

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  I seem to be going against popular opinion, but that does seem a little excessive to me.

  What's the recommended guidelines for women and alcohol?

  I love good wine too, but I save it for the weekends and special events, occasionally a glass in the week.

  Forgive me for saying, but if keeping a bottle of vodka in the house is 'dangerous', do you think you have a difficulty with alcohol?

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  A Shameless Plug

  by Narcissistic Supply in

  1. social
  2. humour

  hey.

  i'm not asking for anyone to build me a billion dollar resort hotel in upstate new york or anything.

  you don't have to give me tens of thousands of dollars in free labor.. all i'm asking for is visit my page.

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  Self advertising. Cute.
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  I Know A MS That Just Got Reappointed As An Elder After 5 Years And Still Thinks He's Not Qualified

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  he's a very good man and recognizes his limitations.

  he still dislikes field service and considers himself inferior to the other elders.

  he has almost no contact with his disfellowshipped older son.

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  Self doubt, inferiority and unworthiness are the trademark traits of a JW.
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  Re: 2013 annual meeting

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember, you read it here first!.

  dear brothers: .

  we are pleased to announce that arrangements are being made for all baptized and unbaptized publishers who read and write english, along with their minor children, to be invited to locations where they can hear the 2013 annual meeting program that will be presented on saturday, .

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  I'm invited

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  "False Prophets" part notably uncomfortable

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so, service meeting last night.

  bro handling the "false prophet" part was notably disturbed.

  every time he spoke of previous "expectations" his body language was like "oh my god, can you believe i'm saying this?

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  I pointed out that even though the Reasoning Book listed 1914 as 'one of the doctrines that has never changed', it has actually changed, having previously been 1874. Naughty Reasoning Book. Splash
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  Sun newspaper writes about Witness paedophile scandal

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  it isn't much, only a small piece on page 23 of sunday's sun newspaper .

  for our colonial cousins the sun is a highbrow , well respected national daily newspaper , well national daily anyway .

  on sunday it printed a small article about what it describes as a jehovah's witness paedophile whose sex crimes had been hushed up by his church .

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  Weekly readership figures as of May 2013 (not including web hits) for papers which carried this story:

  The Sun - 12.8 million newspapers
  Daily Mail - 9.5 million newspapers
  Daily Mirror - 7 million newspapers

  Number of people who read and remembered this story one day later - 1 savant and the population of JWN.

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  We are (not) representatives of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at one time jws were issued minister identification cards such as the s-65 in which it is officially stated that the bearer "is a representative of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania.. now, the watchtower specifically tells the publishers not to say they are representatives of the watchtower!.

  when did this 180 degree change take place?.

  here is the text that appears on the front of the s-65 "minister identification card.".

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  *** km 2/89 pp. 3-4 Our Identification as Jehovah’s Witnesses ***

  As ministers of the good news, we are known publicly as Jehovah’s Witnesses. Our voluntary participation in the field service is motivated by love of God and neighbor. It is not carried on at the insistence of any man or organization but is according to our God-given commission to preach the “good news” and make disciples. (Matt. 24:14; 28:19, 20) Therefore, publishers do well to avoid representing themselves as agents or representatives of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc., or any other corporation used by “the faithful and discreet slave” to advance Kingdom interests.—Matt. 24:45-47.

  In case of an accident or an emergency or if problems are encountered while working trailer parks, apartments, or certain other territory, publishers may need some form of personal identification beyond giving their name along with a brief Scriptural explanation of the nature of our religious work. If questioned, or when asked for credentials, baptized publishers may use the identification card (S-65) signed by the presiding overseer, which shows one is preaching the good news of the Kingdom in association with the local congregation named on the card.

  A supply of identification cards (S-65), which may be issued to baptized publishers when there is a need, will be included with the annual shipment of congregation forms. If any publishers use a personal name card in connection with their field service activities, they should not print thereon that they are representatives of the Watchtower Society.
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  Reverse-Witnessing leaves me mentally and emotionally drained...

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi dear friends!.

  i am doing some stealth reverse-witnessing, and i have succeeded in at least two people seeing ttatt, one being my friend and the other being my dad (although my dad has a longer route to take to exit the wts, and i have to slowly chip away at the illusion).... the illusion of jw's is very strong.

  they give an illusion of being moral and decent people, and that may be true just because the majority of the people they attract are just being deceived, or i really like to believe that and hope for the best.. what i hate and leaves me emotionally drained are jw apologists.

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  VACCINATIONS 1921 - "Vaccination never prevented anything and never will, and is the most barbarous practice"

  - Golden Age Oct 12 1921 p.17

  1929 - " Avoid serum inoculations as they pollute the blood stream with their filthy pus."

  – Golden Age11/12/1929 p.107

  1931 - Prohibited as being a "direct violation of the everlasting covenant."

  - Golden Age 2/4/31 p.293

  Permitted in September 1945 Consolation- "When we lose our life because we refuse inoculations, that does not bear witness as a justification of Jehovah's name. God never issued regulations which prohibit the use of drugs, inoculations or blood transfusions. It is an invention of people, who, like the Pharisees, leave Jehovah's mercy and love aside."

  Since 1952 permitted. WT 12/15/52 p.764 and AWAKE! 8/22/65 p.20