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  When will JW.ORG appear on convention name tags?

  by kairos in

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  i have not seen the logo on a name tag, yet.. will this year be the first time jws are encouraged to walk around advertising a web site?.

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  The parable of a king who forgives a slaves debt

  by Splash in

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  in the streamed program from bethel uk this weekend, mark sanderson relates the parable from mt 18:23-35 where a master forgives the huge debt of a slave, but when the slave refuses to forgive a small debt owed to himself, the master throws that slave into prison.. look at the details of this parable.. the master is owed 10,000 talents.

  this is 10's of millions of dollars, completely unpayable.

  this represents our sin which we cannot pay for.. the slave begs for more time, so the master "lets the slave off and cancelled his debt" (vs 27).

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  In the streamed program from Bethel UK this weekend, Mark Sanderson relates the parable from Mt 18:23-35 where a master forgives the huge debt of a slave, but when the slave refuses to forgive a small debt owed to himself, the master throws that slave into prison.

  Look at the details of this parable.

  The master is owed 10,000 talents. This is 10's of millions of dollars, completely unpayable. This represents our sin which we cannot pay for.

  The slave begs for more time, so the master "lets the slave off and cancelled his debt" (vs 27). This represents Gods undeserved kindness and forgiveness.

  That slave is, in turn, owed 100 talents by a different slave. The slave begs for more time to pay it back, but instead of showing mercy the first slave has the second slave thrown into prison until he can pay the debt. This represent how we should show forgiveness to those who sin against us - being mindful that we have already been forgiven our debt.

  Lastly, word gets back to the master about this slaves unforgiving behaviour, so the master lectures him then "With that his master, provoked to wrath, handed him over to the jailers until he repaid all that he owed." (vs 34).

  What's the point of the parable? Vs 35 answers that this is how God will deal with each of us.

  What is never highlighted although is clear in the parable, is that cancelling a debt, forgiving the slave, is a lie. When something is cancelled it should go. God punishes the slave for doing what he was entitled to do, and the punishment is to repay a debt that was already cancelled. That debt was never cancelled at all.

  Maybe the master, unlike the slave, had so much money he could afford to write off such a debt, but once done, how ethical is it to say that it is retrospectively conditional on terms not yet revealed.

  I thought it ironic that the GB fit the description of that first slave so thoroughly, demanding more and more from the lowly publishers to the point that some are imprisoned, yet here is Mark Sanderson blindly and guiltily relating this parable, following it up with demands for more effort, money, time, and bible studies.
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  Governing Body Public Address - today!

  by diamondblue1974 in

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  any ideas what this is about?

  - apparently a three hour public address through each kingdumb hell from the gb.

  anyone heard anything about this?.

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  Plus a new goal for every UK publisher - everyone has to have a goal of getting a new bible study. If you already have one, your goal is to get two (that means YOU, parents!)
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  Questions for those that believe in Electricity

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  you can't see electricity or hear it or feel it.

  well, there are sparks and lightning bolts and heating elements and the light and heat of filaments.

  and somehow, it lights up neon in a tube.

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  Short scientific experiment with an electric fence
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  what do you think about this type of die heart JW male?

  by James Mixon in

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  2. beliefs

  raised in the borg, 45 year old and never been a ms or elder, but.

  yet he is a die heart jw.

  he criticize the elders but will defend the.

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  To criticize the elders IS to criticize the cult - he just doesn't know it yet.
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  David Schafer's Mistake

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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  thanks cappytan for posting the thread "jehovah's people as a whole can never be corrupted".

  it's a sad example of how low in simple reading skills the present gb and their helpers are.

  david schafer referred to philippians 4:7 on jw broadcasting.

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  The International Standard Version surpasses all WT understanding.

  It renders Phil 4:7 much more clearly "Then God's peace, which goes far beyond anything we can imagine, will guard your hearts and minds in union with the Messiah Jesus."
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  Old Witnessy Pics

  by snugglebunny in

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  so what have you got?.

  i'll start.. 1958 aboard steamship arosa star, english and german jw's bound for new york for 8 day assembly at yankee stadium.. .

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  Great pics wifibandit.

  What strikes me is how little has changed at the conventions in the last 60-70 years.

  Still have men walking around with "silence" and "find your seat" signs.
  Still have a volunteers desk.
  Baptism much the same.
  People sitting on the floor or on steps for lunch.
  A multicultural dress wearing welcome party for the press.
  The layout, signage and advertising is just the same.
  Queues for the ladies toilets.
  That vacant stare into the middle distance.
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  Question about this pic of JWs from the 1940s ....

  by Wild_Thing in

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  why is no one else singing???

  it's so strange!

  was she doing a solo or what?.

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  We have some singers like that in my hall. Out of time and out of tune. It's probably even the wrong song.

  The second one is brilliant - he'll never be allowed to baptise again!
  That was 1977 JW porn!
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  Did God have a man to man talk with Adam?

  by James Mixon in

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  2. bible

  i wonder did god instruct adam about the no, no's in procreation and sex.. look adam i know you may feel a little odd, looking at the other animals.

  having fun.

  so i giving you a mate, but don't do like the birds, horses and .

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  Where is that WT reference that suggests Adam may have tried it on with the animals before Eve was created?

  I've seen it once but can't locate it again!
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  Three elders show up "to encourage me" after 10 years!

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  "hey brother wasa, come on back to the meetings.

  " (after 10 years) so i respond that the situation with pedophiles is out of hand.

  they tell me "we" elders have received tons of training on the subject, its not like it was 10 years ago.

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  Tell them you'd need to be rebaptised, because it's a totally different religion compared to 10 years ago.