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  Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

  but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

  i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

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  Splash

  An elder brought this topic up with me. His family is not very well off.
  He described it as a "give us your money" talk.

  I agreed. I said we are now televangelists.
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  BIBLE QUESTIONS ANSWERED - Luke 14:28

  by Esse quam videri in

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  2. beliefs

  answer: by governing body of jws no!

  answer: governing body of jws

  answer: governing body of jws

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  Splash

  If anyone should have worked it out by now, the GB should have;

  JW's are among the most tight fisted, short changing, payment dodging, low tippers of any group on earth.

  My guess is that, while being mostly at the low end of the education and income scale they have learned this skill from their masters.
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  Paint Nite - fun evening and a new hobby

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  we (and by 'we', i mean my wife) decided that we should try something new and she, erm, i mean 'we', liked the idea of painting.

  so i enthusiastically (i.e.

  begrudgingly) went along for the night to the "pain nite" event she'd booked us for a couple of weeks ago.. the premise is pretty simple: it's held in a pub or restaurant, all the art supplies are provided, the instructor then walks you through how to reproduce a painting they have chosen for the night and you have a glass of wine or beer, do some painting, have something to eat, have some more wine, more painting, more wine, realize you are drinking the dirty paint water and so on.. here's the site: https://www.paintnite.com/.

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  Splash

  That is beautiful!

  The softness of the painting perfectly suits the tranquility of the subject - it's very dreamy.

  It may not be as detailed as the original Canoe Sunset, but I prefer it - I'd rather have that hanging on my wall.

  Well done, fantastic!
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  The change in the Memorial

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  up until 1954, the watch tower society said that the symbolism of the memorial loaf included the little flock and that the wine represented their sharing in jesus death.

  (one example: the loaf pictures not jesus fleshly body but his body members, the christian congregation.

  the watchtower, march 15, 1954, page 174).

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  Splash

  CloseTheDoor It was in the early 50's that the Org. taught the bread symbolized the "unity of the body of Christ" -- and in other words, "the Christ", the anointed believers.

  It goes back further than the 1950's!

  w1880 April (No. 10) p.8
  if we are Christ's, we are part of the same loaf; to be broken as He was; to die, as He did to the flesh - crucifying the flesh. "The loaf, which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?"
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  Types and anti types

  by Deltawave in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  according the watchtower study of may 10th, it has been made clear no prophetic meaning should be given to a a scripture or passage unless the bible itself gives clear interpretation of it.

  therefore daniel 7 especially gives it's fulfillment to nebuchadnezzar only.

  no future kingdom or 2520year wait til 1914. no gentile times or "this generation".

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  Island Man Quote me the phrase in this week's Watchtower study where they clearly admit that their type-antitype teachings were false.

  -- w97 9/1 p. 13 Beware of False Teachers! "There will also be false teachers among you."—2 PETER 2:1.

  "Wisely, we take note of how false teachers introduce their corrupt thinking. Peter first says that they do it quietly, or in an unobtrusive, subtle way."
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  The change in the Memorial

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  up until 1954, the watch tower society said that the symbolism of the memorial loaf included the little flock and that the wine represented their sharing in jesus death.

  (one example: the loaf pictures not jesus fleshly body but his body members, the christian congregation.

  the watchtower, march 15, 1954, page 174).

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  Didn't they flip back to 'Christs congregation' after that 1956 wt, then flop back to 'Christ's literal body' again?

  FLIP *** w57 4/1 p. 199 “The Lord’s Evening Meal” ***
  "It therefore follows that only those who belong to spiritual Israel, or Christ’s body, may properly partake. “The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of the Christ? The loaf which we break, is it not a sharing in the body of the Christ? Because there is one loaf, we, although many, are one body, for we are all partaking of that one loaf.' ”—1 Cor. 10:16, 17"

  FLOP *** w59 7/1 p. 408 Part 17—“Your Will Be Done on Earth” ***
  He broke a loaf of unleavened bread and offered it to them to eat, saying that it represented his perfect human body that was to be sacrificed in behalf of human sinners.

  
  

  I like the thought that for 36 years (1919 - 1957) the F&DS didn't understand why they were partaking of the loaf, or even better, that for 77 years (since the first mention of the loaf being the congregation in 1880 - 1957) the anointed didn't properly grasp the meaning of such a special institution.
  

  w13 12/15 p. 25 par. 10 'Do This in Remembrance of Me'

  At one time, God’s servants felt that... the bread meant "the body of the Christ," the congregation of anointed ones. In time, however, it was appreciated that both reason and Scripture indicate that the bread represents Jesus’ human body.

  If "reason and scripture indicate" this, was the wrong teaching, held for 77 years, unreasonable and unscriptural? If so, was it wise or discreet to teach it?
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  Average Age of this Forum?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  heyo!.

  i'm quite interested in knowing the average age of those of us who use this forum.

  i made a quick strawpoll that you can find at the following link: http://strawpoll.me/4340636 just pick an age and click "vote" if you wish to participate.. admins: if this breaks any rules, i apologize in advance..

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  Splash

  So 75% of us are in the 30-60 range, evenly spread out!

  I wonder if the 20-30 bracket is so low because nowadays those who wake up in that age bracket just leave with little need for a forum like this.

  Good straw poll!
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  May 2015 JW Broadcast, "The Watchtower Has The Most Multilingual Speakers in the World? True or False?

  by RoyalFlushPhil in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  stephen lett about 33 minutes in to may's "liar liar" episode of the monthly worship broadcast said "jehovah's witnesses have the most multilingual speakers of any organization in the world!".

  the catholic church has the most people i thought, do you think he's telling the truth and where is he getting these facts?

  i finally broke down and decided to watch this in order to work on my reverse witnessing skills, lots of ammunition for anyone needing fuel to extinguish their dirty flames of lies!.

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  I wonder if the JW's have the most thinkingest multilingual speakers of any organisation in the world.
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  Any Letterman Fans

  by berrygerry in

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  2. entertainment

  not many shows left.. was a fan from his nbc days when he had a lot of innovation.. no question, he has a quick mind, which to me, is a key to comedy.. a distinct memory was awakening my poor pre-teen daughter when dave was back on the air after his heart surgery.. no matter what, is a changing of the guard (if only the wt could do the same)..

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  Splash

  I once saw Phish play outside at Lettermans' studio in NY.

  "Wilson" got the crowds going.
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  The work is speeding up

  by bradford in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i don't have a great reference point on my observation other than my local area but i was wondering if this was a widespread thing.

  ... in the last two years in my former congregation there have been 6 people to disassociate for "apostasy," 6 disfellowshipped for various reasons, and numerous ones reproved.

  these are just the ones i have heard about.

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  Splash

  In the last 24 months in a cong of 100 pubs (but 75-80 average meeting attendance), we have had 2 df'd and a family of 4 fade.

  It also has about 5 very old ones who will no doubt 'stop' attending within the next 12 months, and quite a few other old ones who are finding it more and more difficult.

  Two elders fall into that latter category and have had their responsibilities lightened because they can no longer do all the required stuff.