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  According to WT, has Mt 24:14 been fulfilled?

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no - w55 10/15 p. 621 par.

  7 p. 61 par.

  yes - w92 5/1 p. 22 par.

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  So the WT did get it right for 12 months in 1992/93 then! Result!

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  According to WT, has Mt 24:14 been fulfilled?

  by Splash in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no - w55 10/15 p. 621 par.

  7 p. 61 par.

  yes - w92 5/1 p. 22 par.

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  Inspired by another thread on here, I just researched the following topic and was was suprised at what I found.

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  MATTHEW 24:14 HAS BEEN FULFILLED?

  YES - w51 10/1 p. 601 par. 7 Laying the Stone in Completion
  The Gentile times ended in 1914 and the prophecies were fulfilled exactly as foretold at Matthew 24 and Luke 21, but have not been heeded by these millions.

  NO - w55 10/15 p. 621 par. 1 The Triumphant Message of "The Kingdom"
  Today, in this year 1955, the temple of Jerusalem is no more, as he foretold that it would not be, but his prophecy concerning "this good news of the kingdom" is being fulfilled.

  YES - ws chap. 7 p. 61 par. 9 Settling Accounts Over the Use of Christ’s Funds
  To mark his return, two wars of world proportions, accompanied now by many other wars of lesser proportions, have bloodied our earth. As predicted, these have been accompanied by famines, pestilences, and earthquakes, and by the increasing of lawlessness and the preaching of "this good news of the kingdom" in all the inhabited earth. This has fulfilled the details of what Jesus said would be "the sign of [his] presence and of the conclusion of the system of things."—Matthew 24:3-15.

  IT APPLIES TO THE 1ST CENTURY - w92 6/15 p. 14 par. 14 Serving as Fishers of Men
  For the needs of the first-century Christians, Jesus’ prophecy at Matthew 24:14 was fulfilled before Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 C.E.

  YES - w92 5/1 p. 22 par. 19 Keep Awake in "the Time of the End"
  As we look back over three quarters of a century, we can see how one prophecy after another has been fulfilled—the restoration of true worship; the deliverance of the anointed remnant, along with their companions, into a spiritual paradise; the preaching of the good news of the Kingdom on a global scale; the appearance of the great crowd. (Isaiah 2:2, 3; chapter 35; Zechariah 8:23; Matthew 24:14; Revelation 7:9)

  NO - w93 5/1 p. 12 par. 7 Shedding Light on Christ’s Presence
  (Matthew 24:7-14) Each Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses adds to the evidence that these aspects of the sign are being fulfilled.

  YES - w95 9/1 pp. 17-18 par. 17 Christian Witnesses for Divine Sovereignty
  Jesus said: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14; Mark 13:10) Has this prophecy been fulfilled? Indeed, it has.

  NO - w97 8/15 p. 14 par. 11 Living for Today or for an Eternal Future?
  There is also Jesus’ prediction that "this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14) Today, Jehovah’s Witnesses carry out their work in 233 lands, island groups, and territories. True, untouched territories still exist, and perhaps in Jehovah’s due time, a door of opportunity will open.
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  Prepare for meetings??

  by Jen1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  do you prepare for meetings?

  if i go i spend a few minutes underlinging my books/watchtower.. i have noticed that those who do the micks especially notice when your stuff is not underlined, and comments are made after the meeting, not so gentle hints, about study and preperation!

  in other words i am being told off, its usually the ones who are highly critical of everything i do, sometimes their whole family seems to be straining to see if my stuff is underlined, i know this because i heard the daughter to family wisper her watchtower is not underlined!.

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  This is actually very guilting.

  To know someone is looking over your shoulder at your non underlined magazine can be very humiliating and stressful because you know you are being judged for it.

  I took the approach as above, that I just don't write in my books and that doesn't mean I've not pre-read or pre-studied it. Especially if I'm reading for the congregation do I not want scribbles and lines all over the page.

  Get a tablet since many more of those go un-underlined.

  After all, once the meeting is finished there's no difference in who can remember the main points, whether you have underlined or not.

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  What are the best questions?

  by MissyM in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what would you say are the best questions to ask a jw which they will not be able to answer and may make them question their beliefs?.

  what (if you are a former jw) made you question the "truth"?.

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  Ask "Why do JW's change their teachings?"
  This will give you the "new light" answer.
  Ask two questions:
  1. Where did the 'old' light come from - Jehovah? - Why would He give us false teachings? Imperfect men? - Then why should we listen to them?
  2. How do you know what you are teaching today is also not going to be 'old light' tomorrow?

  If you get "even the apostles had false expectations" then use the "but they never wrote anything down in the Bible that was false, since that's not Jehovah's way".

  It will be a cyclical argument but is good fun for a few minutes entertainment.

  You could spice it up a bit by asking "Is there anything that the GB could say that you would question, or do you accept absolutely everything they say each time as being 'truth'?"

  I was once discussing the new FDS teaching with someone who said "it makes sense to me".
  I said that "Whatever the GB says would 'make sense' to you."
  They took offence.

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  Raised On the Third Day?

  by TTATTelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have some potentially controversial questions.. i have always wondered about these things in the back of my mind, but i would immediately dismiss them.

  now i am giving myself permission to explore them further.... a lot of attention is given to how big the sacrifice was on the part of jesus and god when jesus laid down his life.

  as the story goes, jesus gave his life for our sins and then was miraculously raised back to life a couple of days later.. consider this.

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  Isn't the phrase used "he was dead for parts of three days"?

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  this week's wt study

  by thedog1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i conducted the wt study tonight on higher education.

  i wondered what the reaction of the bros and sis would be.

  there was no deviation from the idea that a university education is not a good idea.

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  Splash

  Weren't they asking for free labour in the UK earlier this month, draughtsmen and other highly educated persons to help with the London bethel?

  Even if that letter was read immediately after the 'no education' WT study, few if any in the congregation would see the hypocrisy or contradiction.

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  10 Years out of the JW Organization- What I've Learned ( For what it's Worth)

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  10 years ago i stopped attending jehovah's witness meetings for good.

  walked out of the kingdom hall cold turkey never to return based on injustices i observed among others and myself at the hands of elders giving out not god's counsel but personal opinions as counsel .

  some of them weren't even giving out wt society counsel- just personal opinions.

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  Anyone else and I would have thought twice about reading a long post like this one.

  You're a lovely man Flipper, with a huge heart.

  Thank you for sharing these thoughts. Keep on being a caring human being, an example to the rest of us.

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  Who is the FDS class from midweek meeting....last night

  by Legacy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  last night we had our midweek meeting.

  the bible reading was from "who is doing jehovah's will....the part where they asked who was the fds.

  i thought because of the past sept. wt, every hand would go up....all you heard were crickets.

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  Well Smiddy's comment has made me think.

  Officially now there is no Class, but Smiddy asked When were they appointed?

  The answer, according to new(est) light, is that the FDS were appointed in 1919.

  This being the case, none of todays FDS were alive back then so Jesus did not just appoint men, but must have appointed a class of men. Either that or he keeps appointing men.

  "Who really is the FDS whom the master [keeps] appointing..."

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  Is there an official name for this comedic device?

  by Island Man in

  1. social
  2. humour

  is there an official name for the comedic device where one replaces one word with another word having a similar pronounciation but a different (usually derisive) meaning?.

  for example, some skeptics deride the bible by spelling it "buy-bull".

  same or simliar pronounciation but entirely different meaning.

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  Splash

  Jesus did a great pun when he spoke about a camel going through the eye of a needle.

  His listeners would not have quickly forgotten that joke of his.

  Using hyperbole in the pun, he used 'camel' which is a pun on 'rope' in the greek!!

  Look the words up!

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  Maslow's Hierarchy of needs redefined

  by cantleave in

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  Splash

  You need WiFi to be able to buy shoes and bags, surely?

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