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  The Reason Why Jehovah's Witnesses Will Never Prosper Is The Children

  by minimus in

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  i believe that the religion will remain stagnant due to their achilles heel, the kids, the children, that next generation.. most of them really don't wa t to be in the religion.

  the parents may have tried everything within their power to make the kids love jehovah but we all know you can't force someone to love you and you can't make a grown person stay in a relationship or situation if they really don't want to be there..

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  Splash

  I guess he got an education, got a job and bought his own appliances.

  Or inherited them.
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  the torch

  by Mr.logic in

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  since the wt organization claims 'apostolic succession " who was it that passed the torch to c.t.

  russell who founded this organization of sheeple?

  ask judge rutherford, or milton henschel, maybe they know.

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  Wasn't it George Storrs who passed the baton to CTR, and Henry Grew passed it it George...?
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  JW-PTSD (Also known as the Norman Bates syndrome)

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  the jw religion is sort of like norman bates' mother.

  she was supposed to be a proper caretaker, teacher, and role model--but--instead she was a corrupting influence.. even after 'mother' is gone--it is so easy to keep her embalmed in our subconscious like norman did in the fruit cellar.. when pressures weigh heavily on us and we start losing it--well, something like the character and personality of 'mother' may creep into our thinking.

  mightn't it?we really have to exert our individuality at all times and rise above.

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  This corrupting influence has produced the same results - her children are driven to spy on the unsuspecting and end up doing them harm.
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  June JW Broadcast - Jehovah's & Jesus' names Are Interchangeable!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  mr. geoffrey jackson hosts this month's propaganda-fest, and uses a favourite catchphrase of the org - "by extension" - to get out of the dead-end which the scriptwriters had put him in.

  he quotes matthew 10:22 - "and you will be objects of hatred by all people on account of my [jesus'] name; but he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.".

  mr. jackson knows only too well that probably no j.w.

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  Splash

  BU2B The very best example of what you highlight comes from a 2008 watchtower. It is simply hilarious:

  *** w08 4/15 p. 7 par. 19 Repudiate “Valueless Things” ***
  "A sound rule is found in the words of the apostle Paul: “Do not go beyond the things that are written.” (1 Cor. 4:6) Elders do not go beyond the things that are written in the Bible. And by extension, they do not go beyond the Bible-based counsel written in the publications of the faithful and discreet slave."

  
  

  First we're told not to go beyond what's written, then in the very next sentence they go beyond what is written!!

  Another great example of using "by extension", as Searcher observed in the OP.
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  Kingdom Hall loans Cancelled? Lurkers...please read

  by ToesUp in

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  i hope that writing this, there will be some lurkers that i can shake.. if you have not listened to mays tv broadcast, please do.

  it may wake some up.. note @ around 21-22 minutes into the broadcast lett brings up the the kingdom halls/assembly hall loans have been cancelled and the congregation can now send in what they can afford.

  wow...how many banks would do that?.

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  Splash

  It looked like CloserToFine's spouse was going to increase donations. It's this extra I considered 'spare'.

  On the other hand some people will always spend up to or beyond their earnings level, so whether they are paid well or poorly they never have spare cash at the end of the month.

  I guess giving it all away to billionaires is never a good idea though:
  (Proverbs 22:16) "The one giving gifts to the rich will end up in poverty."

  
  
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  Intelligent design my ass

  by Doltologist in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so man was made by god in his image was he?.

  so the human body was intelligently designed was it?.

  you are kidding me !!.

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  Splash

  Testicles need to swing in the air to keep cool, otherwise the swimmers don't work so well.
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  New June broadcast is out.....oh what joys will be unleashed on everyone?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  anyone watched the june broadcast?.

  i can't be stuffed.....but i'm interested in any wtf content.....

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  Splash

  The song at the end is called "I want to give you my all" and centres around a number of youths turning away from secular things such as education and sports in order to go preaching or to the meetings.

  It ends by showing all three youngsters being baptised to the lyric "I want to give you my all" being sung four times.
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  Another "damned if they do/don't" Thread & the Perpetual Motion Machine

  by DarioKehl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few days ago, a jw apologist posted a thread with a similar title.

  although he was defending their behavior, i've observed this cycle as well.

  i have a different spin on it, though.. how often do you see posts from people who are upset that "no one even bothers to check in on me," only to read as many threads about "they keep calling & texting--why won't they leave me alone?

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  The double standard of "they never come to visit" vs "they won't stop calling" is nothing other than the standard JW modus operandi.

  JW's are so indoctrinated to having to take a single statement or event and apply it to one specific situation while ignoring the overall bigger picture, that they end up doing the same.

  How many times do we read something like the NT was written for the anointed, then told that the instruction to preach in Matt 28 was for all?

  Or instructed to go and discuss the fault with your brother first, only to be hauled into the back room by the elders for something you wasn't aware about.

  Or the illustration of the faithful slave takes 20 WT pages to explain, but the wicked slave receives one line: "there's no such thing".

  This, plus being told we are never doing enough, conditions JW's to look critically at others all the time, finding fault and using anything that might fit.
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  Writing Department Interview on "The Generation."

  by cappytan in

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  2. friends

  a member of the writing department was gracious enough to allow me to interview him about the "overlapping generation" doctrine.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eo1o5qmagu.

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  Splash

  That is SERIOUSLY funny!!!!!!
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  How big of a problem is apostasy.

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i often wonder if apostasy could be defined as the "silent problem", as the majority who leave for this reason choose to fade saying nothing.

  in all the decades i was a witness i could probably count on 2 hands those who were disfellowshipped for apostasy.i must admit it wasn't until i came on the internet that i fully realise the depth and extent of the problem.

  i think of that young girl high school speech that went viral, and you can't tell me all those 300000+ views were all none jws.

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  I think demographics are an important factor.

  The older ones will not research online, however these ones are reducing in number as they grow old, can't make meetings anymore, and eventually die off. 40% in my congregation of 100 publishers are in this age group and there are a dozen of these who no longer come regularly because of age and infirmity.

  Middle aged ones sit squarely between years of meetings and dabbling with reading online. This group makes up the largest number in my congregation, probably 50% in their 30's - 50's. My observation is that they often have lots of questions about the organisation but are trapped in because they may have older parents in, or they have brought their children in. When the parents die and the children leave (either home or the WT), that will be an interesting time.

  Younger ones (not including minors who have to attend with parents) are dropping like flies. They use the internet every day and are increasingly unafraid to research non-WT sites.

  It's a vicious circle for the WT. As younger ones drop away, there's less incentive for the remaining younger ones to stay, seeing as it's an ageing group with whom they have little in common. The meetings are repetitive, boring and bullying, the demands on time and lifestyle are too high, and the teachings incomprehensible. Once the social aspect goes there's nothing left.

  At the top end they are dying off, at the bottom end, despite the infant baptisms, young ones are just losing fear and interest. Those that remain do so for family reasons. If they don't leave now, they will likely do so when they reach middle age.

  Of course, there are always those who have JW-ORG written through their brains like a stick of seaside rock and those who value their positions too much to quit because they have nothing else in life to be proud about. These will remain on board when it sinks, and still won't see the futility of it all.