What's that?? Someone saying something??? And to think I actually used to LIKE you WT! *weep*
Cat food? CAT FOOD??? Oh yeah? Well...um...uh...hmmm...oh yeah, your uniforms are ugly! So there! And...and...and we MEANT to lose that game,yeah that's right, coz we felt SORRY for your ugly ol' purple asses! So what do you think about them apples, hey? Oh and um...uh...oh yeah, your coach has bad breath too and and and....I WANT SPURRIER BACK!!!!!!!! *SOB*
Dana
non, je ne regrette rien.. mr. moe has said that she doesn't want to enter her 50's (that's about 25 years off, btw) and look back on her life with a feeling of regret.. relax, you probably won't!.
you see, i have made the most apalling mistakes in my life.
some real mega cock-ups.
Well said Ashitaka
I only regret the hurts I've caused, which were unintentional, for the most part. But even those I've learned from and each experience has taught me what NOT to do in future relationships. I do wish that I could go back and change some things, but I don't waste much time or emotion on regretting things that I cannot now do anything about.
Good post Eman, life is all about the learning hey?
Dana
billygoat, .
i know that you are nervous and very busy today, but i just wanted to wish you a beautiful day for the beautiful bride.
may you and your husband have a wonderful day to remember your whole married life and enjoy your life together.
Yay ((((Andi))))
Here's wishing you a very happy day for your marriage, and I second Joy...I wanna see pics!
Love,
Dana
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see second article entitled "witnesses faces protest on abuse".
http://c.moreover.com/click/here.pl?j48904922&w=2013261
Awesome Kenneson! Thanks for posting this.
Lakeland was the town I was in when everything "hit the fan", so to speak...I'm wondering who tipped off the Ledger about the march, I would love to talk to them!! If they're from Lakeland, there's a good chance I know them as I spent 30+ years there (yeah, I know...scary hey? )
Dana
i have been busy for the past few weeks and finally got around to reading the thread containing bill bowen's latest letter to the governing body.
apparently the gb just locked the gates and ignored them.
correct me if i'm wrong, i haven't dug through all the posts... .
Hi goodboy,
Interesting post and I agree that there are differences in perspectives, depending on whether one was raised, or found, etc.
However, I have to disagree with some of your generalities, as I don't fit your profile. You stated:
R's will generally have a pain that the F's cannot understand-- or so they tell themselves. Raised ones will always believe they would not have been duped at the door. They wonder how the Founds got trapped. The Raised feel like more-seriously violated victims, especially the female ones (in whose case, its pretty correct).
I don't believe that I woulndn't have been "duped"...who knows?? Depending on where I might have been emotionally, mentally, and spiritually at the time, I might have fallen for it hook, line and sinker...then again, maybe not. To me, this statement implies some negative judgment of those who "came in" and I definitely do not carry that type of mentality. Also, I do not feel that my pain is in any way more significant than that of others. Pain is pain. Yes, some have been more traumatized than others, this is true. But the feeling of pain is common to all of us, though perhaps to lesser or greater degrees.
Anyway, I don't mean to be argumentative, just sharing my opinion.
Dana
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enrico frassinetti is an italian disfellowshipped for fraud.
wtinfiltrated.
Unclebruce!
Just popping in here to say hello I've missed your wild and wacky sense of humor here and it's great to see you back.
You may now return to your regularly scheduled discussion.....
Dana (of the terminally mad class)
why we dont tell(apologies for this veeery long post).. i cant even express how much i am behind silentlambs right now though i may be overly concerned by the latest letter sent out im sure bb knows what hes doing and all will become clear, and even if its a mistake then we have to allow for mistakes as long as they dont cost lives like wt mistakes do.
bb is only a man and hed be the first to admit that.. i know the majority of people on this board totally understand why an abused child doesnt tell they have been abused straight away, as far as i know there has only been one buff here that suggested all abused people should speak out straight away or not expect help later simply because someone touched them!
like all of you i switched off to this jw clown but began wondering how many more people or jdubs are taking such a pathetic outlook (very few i guess).
((((((Brummie))))))
Suppression by no means meant that I forgot what had happened, I have never forgotten and do not have repressed memories, they are as clear today as ever. I simply chose not to think about things or confront them at that time in my life, to be honest I couldnt confront them anyway, I was a coward and had probably been made a coward by my abuser
Please do not think of yourself as a coward!! This is so not true as it's very difficult for an abuse victim to actually tell...but look, you are no coward, you've just told all of us! Cut yourself some slack on this one, ok?? We tell when we're ready to tell, it's a defense mechanism that we develop to protect us, and yours has been in operation all of these years to help you function and cope. Please, please try to view this as the positive thing that it is.
I am so impressed by your coming forward with what happened to you. I think that it is much more difficult for male survivors to reveal what has happened to them than it is for female survivors, as you mentioned. Your wife sounds as though she is really sharp and on the ball; I'll bet that when you are able to talk to her about it, she will be able to give you the support you've never received before and that will go a long way towards helping you heal.
As for suppressed memories, yes these are very different from REPRESSED memories. I too suppressed mine -- another coping mechanism--but I never forgot. I carried it around with me, my deep dark shameful secret. It wasn't until I started talking about it that I finally started to realize that I had no reason to feel shame and guilt; that I was an innocent child who had done nothing wrong. For so many years, I HATED that little girl that I was, that I had been, and I avoided even thinking about her. I'm happy to say that is no longer the case, and hasn't been for several years. Therapy helped me a great deal and I would encourage you to consider it as an option for you, too.
Sorry to be so longwinded...I am so happy that you felt comfortable telling us your story and I wish healing and happiness for you and your family.
Dana
the chicken crossed the road?
aristotle: it is the nature of chickens to cross the road.. .
karl marx: it was a historical inevitability.. .
Hey Jst2,
Thanks for noticing When are you going to put one of yours up?? After all, it's a bit late to try to stay anonymous
Dana
the chicken crossed the road?
aristotle: it is the nature of chickens to cross the road.. .
karl marx: it was a historical inevitability.. .
Rooster:
Out of my way, woman! I know where I'm going.
Hen:
Bloody man, he's crossed that same patch of road seven times and STILL refuses to ask for directions!
Dana
i'm new here and this is the first post i make (i promise that more will come).
i have been following most of the posts made here quietly for about 4 months and i would like to thank all of you who are called apostates for the well documented and researched material you have presented here.thanks to you i know now the truth about the wt organization and i'm no longer blind and misled.
i disassociated myself about 2 months ago after 15 years of very "faithful" service to the society.i was regular pioneer for 12 years and an elder for 8 years, i served mainly as the service overeer.my experience was published in the 2 of the society's magazins.. as i was a very zealous and prominent elder in my circuit i zealously promoted the organizational rules and i allowed myself to be fully used by the society to promote those mind controle techniques that now i know hurt those who were my sheep.
Hi Elon and welcome
I am so very sorry to hear that you lost your son; I cannot imagine anything more painful. If and when you feel comfortable sharing your story, please do so with the knowledge that many here will be able to relate and offer support and care to you.
While I agree that there is no need to apologize as most of us were in the same boat mentally, I am impressed by your willingness to take responsibility for your actions and any harm, inadvertent as it was, that may have resulted. That's all that any of us can do once we realize the truth about the "truth". I'm hoping that now that you've relieved yourself of that particular need, you will be able to move forward and heal. How wonderful that your wife and son have come out with you!!!
Welcome!
Dana
