Yes I really did. I commented on a question in the Watchtower study not long before I left and said we don't know how long we will have to suffer terrible things before Jehovah rescues us. The study conductor started arguing with me from the platform and said it won't be that bad! I am not sure when I got over the thought of being tortured to death, it stayed with me a long time.
Xanthippe
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Did you REALLY think about the 'Great Tribulation'?
by jw07 inaccording to wt doctrine jehovah's witnesses will be singled out and persecuted during a time described in this way: "for then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the worlds beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.
" according to the watchtower the devil will turn on god's people will all his might (if he really exists, why hasn't he done so already?
) in an attempt to wipe them out.. also, it's not promised that all jws will escape unscathed during this period of time.. even before i woke up fully to ttatt i really thought about what that meant.
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Books!
by dynamiterose77 ini feel like i wasn't allowed to read a lot of books when i was younger, a lot of which i'm discovering are positivly phenomenal.. i was allowed to read edgar allan poe, who remains my all time favorite writer.
but, i've discovered the joys of stephen king, anne rice, joyce carrol oats, neil gaiman, george r. martin, david sedaris... and so so so many more.. i'm currently getting through "the shining" so i can move on to "doctor sleep".
i'm interested to see if anyone else that discovered the many joys of "worldly" literature, jumped immediately into what they weren't allowed to read... and what was your favorite?.
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Xanthippe
A few weeks ago I read a book that was absolutely forbidden when I was a witness, Dennis Wheatleys The Devil Rides Out which is about satanists. Turned out to be very silly but it was something I just wanted to do because I can.
bemused I'm reading Midnight's Children. Goes on a bit doesn't he! It's about the Indian partition in 1947. It's taken him 200 pages just to get to 1947, but I am enjoying it.
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"And yet it moves !"
by Phizzy ingalileo is said to have uttered, or probably muttered these words in front of the inquisition after supposedly having reacanted his teaching that the solar system is heliocentric, as his predecessors kepler and copernicus had worked out.
(and a guy in 3rd century b.c greece !).
why was galileo unable to go back to his belief held by him in his youth, and nearly all people in christendom, that the earth was at the centre of the solar system and all the planets revolved around it ?.
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Xanthippe
Very true and even though losing family and friends to the cult is very painful at least we don't have the threat of being tortured to death by the Roman Inquisition unless we recant, which was what Galileo faced.
The pertinent point for many faders here, I feel, is that Galileo did recant publicly to save his life but privately he continued to believe in heliocentrism. He didn't have a scientifically enlightened world to go out to in his world dominated by the Catholic church but we have reality and freedom waiting for us when we leave the cult. However if you can get out with your family intact using intelligent strategy why wouldn't you?
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Any new partakers this year???
by DATA-DOG ini just wondered if anyone was going to partake this year?
when i learned ttatt, it became obvious that the wtbts was not god's organization.
it became obvious that if the bible was true, the wtbts's teaching on the "anointed" were false.
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Xanthippe
Lol Quarterback I'm not sure if you meant you are gluten intolerant or you dislike gluttons. Either way you made me smile on this Sunday morning.
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Sausage or Bacon?
by Quarterback inwhen bethel serves pancakes, do they give you a choice?
is it only 1 choice.
it sure would be a deal breaker for me if i didn't get to choose between bacon, or sausages.
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Xanthippe
My mother always gave us pancakes with sugar and orange juice. Don't know if that's a London thing which is where she grew up.
Quorn bacon style slices are surprisingly good with scrambled eggs and toms.
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My 45 Minute Conversation With JWs Today
by cofty inas i was saying before the watchtower literature trolley has arrived in my little town.... my wife and i were in town this afternoon and i saw one of my former elder colleagues standing beside the trolley talking to a young man and reading to him from one of their books.
ray was one my least favourite people - he was everything that is bad about jw elders.
i went up to them and interrupted and told the man that this is a cult recruitment campaign.
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Xanthippe
He wanted to discuss creation but his best argument was "there are still monkeys in the zoo" so I decided it would have been an unfair fight.
Lol. Glad you had a civilized discussion, I'm sure what you said will stay with them. Enjoy your meal.
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Any new partakers this year???
by DATA-DOG ini just wondered if anyone was going to partake this year?
when i learned ttatt, it became obvious that the wtbts was not god's organization.
it became obvious that if the bible was true, the wtbts's teaching on the "anointed" were false.
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Xanthippe
Only if they have an excellent Chianti and some crusty olive bread.
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Which of the SEVEN stages of post JW behavior are you in right now?
by Terry in1. they done me wrong.
2. i'm depressed.
3. i'm gonna act like an apostate (smoke, drink, drugs, sex, outrageous behavior).
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Xanthippe
8. Wow this is an interesting planet, what do they do for fun around here?
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Norman v Watchtower Bible And Tract Society Of Canada
by Bangalore innorman v watchtower bible and tract society of canada.. .
https://wiki.qut.edu.au/display/cpns/norman+v+watchtower+bible+and+tract+society+of+canada.
bangalore.
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Xanthippe
it is always advisable for large donors to obtain independent legal advice before entering into donation programs.
Which they wouldn't have done because they didn't realise they were being manipulated by a cult. Very sad for the beneficiaries of the estate who were probably this couple's children and grandchildren.
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Xanthippe
Are you sure you switched the cooker off?