From ancient times religion is the way people have tried to explain reality. Now anachronistic because we use science and reason to understand reality, although not everything is explainable as yet.
Xanthippe
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How would you define RELIGION, and why?
by Fernando in"judge" rutherford defined or classified all religion as "a snare and a racket" in his books "religion" and "enemies".. after rutherford's death in 1942, his protege, watchtower vice president, and aclu darling, hayden c. covington, in the early 1950's, for reasons of legal expedience and supremacist aspirations, suddenly converted the watchtower into a religion.. this was done alongside one of the most audacious, spurious and longstanding swindles of the us legal system.
this involved twisting philippians 1:7 and misrepresenting the watchtower's true nature, objectives and activities.. .
this meant that it became necessary for the watchtower to suddenly reclassify and redefine religion (w51 1/15 p. 43 new legal booklet well named; w51 8/15 p. 511 questions from readers; yb75 p. 161 part 2 "for gladys bolton...").. two new watchtower classifications were suddenly created: "true religion" and "false religion".. now "true religion" meant "true beliefs" whilst "belief" in ever changing watchtower doctrine was equated with the one "faith" of scripture.. all this while the watchtower increasingly and maliciously truncated, obfuscated and hid the liberating full "good news" (or unabridged gospel) of scripture, which it lyingly claimed (in court) that it was actually "defending and legally establishing".. how would you have defined religion before learning ttatt?.
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What is your biggest gripe with the WT and it's teachings?
by FL_Panthers inas the title says, please list what you find annoying with the organization..
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Xanthippe
Sexism, they denigrate 50% of the human population and then say 'we love our dear sisters'. Yuck!
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The End of The World Delusion
by cassuk11 inbeing pushed by religion since the 17th century.
my question is why ?.
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Xanthippe
James Thomas
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The End of The World Delusion
by cassuk11 inbeing pushed by religion since the 17th century.
my question is why ?.
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Xanthippe
When I was studying for my history degree came across a few end of the world cults in the last 500 years or so. Think in the Reformation the Protestants thought biblical Babylon the Great was Roman Catholicism. There was another one too in the middle ages, they went to the top of a mountain to await the end, that's all I remember.
Why? Life is hard! It would be lovely if a powerful person came and fed the hungry, removed poverty, war ect. Sadly the longer we keep waiting for this mythical person the longer the suffering continues. We have to do it ourselves. We need to stop waiting for the Golden Age. (Google that phrase, very interesting).
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Is it selfish to enjoy life?
by new hope and happiness ini mean there are some great debates running on this forum :-.
what is spirit exactly?.
what is love?.
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Xanthippe
We were indoctrinated to believe that doing anything to make ourselves happy was selfish. Instead we had to spend our lives making Jehovah happy which meant supporting a printing company. Our minds were abused, this is not reality. Start by making yourself happy and you may find eventually you have a little energy left over to help someone else, but that might not be for a while yet so enjoy yourself. Don't let a crazy little cult dictate the rest of your life.
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How do you shut your mind down so you can get a good night sleep???
by jam inthe more i learn about jw's the harder it is.
to sleep at night.
the wife hit the pillow and within 5 min.. she is snoring.
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Xanthippe
Jam I don't mean to upset you but if talking about this cult is costing you a good night's sleep perhaps you should get off this forum and think about something alse. Sleep is precious, we need REM sleep to help our brains reboot and work properly the next day.
The best sleep I had in a long time we were on vacation(6 mo ago) and in our hotel...
No singing just birds and the sound of running streams and a flute..
The clue is in your words, you need a break. Take care.
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Does WT use intellectual intimidation in publications?
by KateWild inwhen i first learned ttatt, i read loads all at once and tried to absorb everything.
then i slowed down evaluated my priorities and took one step at time.
now my kids know ttatt and i have set some goals in life, i am ready to take on my next project in my deprogramming.. intellectual intimidation.
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Xanthippe
Hi Kate, I agree with Oub that nothing about the WTBTS is intellectual. I do feel though that when you have questions as I did at 16 about the Ransom, I just couldn't see it and later about the seven times prophecy, they treat you as if you are an idiot. Why are you having a problem with it no-one else is? It's very straightforward, what's so difficult about it? That is intellectual intimidation. It's a case of, What, you can't see the Emperor's new clothes! No I just thought he was naked!
It's a good life lesson though isn't it? I keep reminding myself that if I think something doesn't sound right then I do not let anyone twist my arm and make me believe it ever again. That sixteen-year-old was no idiot!
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The Downside of using the name of JEHOVAH
by Terry inexample #1: a child is caught eating a candy bar before bedtime.. .
the child is caught and makes an excuse:.
3. the child is blame-shifting in the name of his father.. .
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How I Know The Assembly Parts Are Made Up
by lovelylil inwe had a co looking for a certain experience for an assembly part coming up and the elders in my hall at the time sent him to see me, since i usually had good experiences out in field service.. anyway, after speaking with the co, i was sorry to inform him that i did not have an experience that suited the type he needed.
he told me that was o.k.
because he could use me anyway for another part.
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Xanthippe
Then, the brother asks me flat out if I can fudge it a little by changing the details to suit the part better. I was like No, I can't do that. I can't lie to all those people and have them congratulate me on an experience I never had. He was like, I don't see what it can hurt - Lovelylil
Thanks for bumping this thread VM44. The thing that makes me angry is that we believed that it was very wrong to lie. My pioneer sister lost her part-time job as a secretary because she refused to lie for her boss, just to say over the phone that he wasn't in. Lots of ordinary witnesses have suffered through being honest in their work and then these elders ask people to lie about experiences from the convention platform!
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Atlanta Int Convention 2014:The Big Party. Does this look like WT believes Armageddon is coming "soon"?
by AndDontCallMeShirley inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=potrr2qxhue.
.. if armageddon is "imminent", why is wt focused on sight-seeing, entertainment, travel, etc.
instead of preaching and saving people??.
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Xanthippe
Dull men in dull suits who can barely put a sentence together! How did I stand being patronized by those idiots? I will never complain that I am having a dull day again! My life now is wonderful.