i had a discussion with a current jw member of +- 30 years, we got chatting about how you can be sure your faith is right and what checks can be done.
i then suggested looking at ex members view points and literature.
her response was her "i am not someone who takes initiative to look online at stuff, i doesn't feel my personality needs me look at outside view points" in summary she was saying her personality type is not interested in looking at other views.
It does ring a bell. My mother and eldest sister used to say things like 'I haven't got that sort of mind, I can't understand things like that'. If your friend is into denial so heavily I don't think it will help to just come out with it that she's in a cult.
It's a good sign that she didn't round on you immediately and call you an apostate when you suggested reading ex-JW stuff. There is certainly hope I would say.
the latest phase of the uk charity commission case included this:.
subsequent to the opening of the inquiry, in a letter dated 10 july 2014, mr cook of the watchtower informed the respondent that the disfellowshipping hearing for mr rose had in fact been carried out by the elders of a different congregation, so the charity had played no role in that process.
mr cook (who is the in-house solicitor at the watchtower) later elaborated on his own letter in a witness statement for the tribunal.
Who are the CCoJWs where are its offices, who are its principals. Am I being paranoid or is this the new attempt at hands off disinfectant bath trying to keep the hirearchy away from the dirt?You're not being paranoid. Of course this is a way to keep WTS away from all the recriminations involved in objections to disfellowshipping and all of the child abuse accusations. Complete whitewash. Those of us who were in this organisation know the CCoJWs is the Watchtower Society but they are trying to convince the Charities Commision otherwise.
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.
what exactly is "belief"?.
is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.
what exactly is "belief"?.
is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
Some assert a belief that there is no God. God does not exist.
Others may state that they do not believe God exists. These are not equivalent statements.
I think they are the same statement grammatically and semantically. However, I understand what Sagan is saying, belief and certainty because of compelling evidence are two different things.
stemming from the 'absentheism' thread, an old question came to my mind.
what exactly is "belief"?.
is it the same to ask: "do you believe in god?
Lack of belief in god is not a claim that there is NO god. This is where people can't understand atheists
Sorry if I'm being thick but I don't know what this means? (I am an atheist)
i do believe it is written somewhere in jw literature .
Thanks Splash I haven't seen that vid, thanks to JW Survey too, it's brilliantly put together.
These GB men who dare to assert people can leave the KH any time they like because they are not chained to it ! Liars, you can leave but they will keep your family. What kind of freedom is that?
Then he says JWs are the most thinking people in the world but in the same breath he says you have to do what the elders tell you because that's listening to God. There is no room for any kind of thought in that religion never mind independent thinking.
http://www.aetv.com/hoarders/video/stacey-roi.
this is the link.
however it may not work because i am logged in on my account.
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There is a doctor who had so many people having these NDE that he wrote a book.This is probably the closest thing that I know of that would be documented proof.
Eben Alexander did not write about his patients' experiences, he claims to have had a NDE himself after going into a coma with meningitis. Have you actually read it? He doesn't give any evidence that can be corroborated by another person.
Neurophysiologist Peter Fenwick on the other hand has written about his patients' experiences.
tell us a little about yourself and your family.my parents became jw's in 1968. my oldest sisters came along in the early 70's because my parents thought they would not have to raise them in this "system of things".
are your parents / family jws?.
now we have great discussions about religion, life, the bible, god and my uber dub sister.
i know of the local congregation's issues, per an elder i know quite well.
he has said that nearly everyone in the congregation is suffering emotionally and mentally.
he said he has never seen so many witnesses with so many problems.
