Posts by Xanthippe

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report from vomitville and financials

by jonahstourguide in

i attended a circuit arsesemblancey today.

melbourne, melton arsembley hall.

western suburbs area.. 1. re hearing negative reports in the media about jws.

Xanthippe

Then we must remember that jehovah is backing his people and if there is anything to correct jehovah will fix it in his own time

Same old circular reasoning. So if a government is corrupt we let them fix it because we totally trust them and we don't listen to anything bad about them? Only in religion do we put up with bad conduct in administrators.

After our last convention we had a surplus of $11,663.95 so in accord of the equalizing of blah blah blah, we have forwarded the sum of $10,708.45 to the world wide work and the branch sent us a lovely letter thanking us for the contribution"

Wake up Australia! Indeed!

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Our Own Unstuck (stuckinarut2's wife) On The Shunned Podcast

by dubstepped in

--------new episode---------.

episode twenty three - sherrie is shunned by jehovah's witnesses.

today we have a really cool live recording from my living room.

Xanthippe

Thanks I'll listen to this later I've got to go to work now.

8

Out of context

by Nomorejwguilt in

i’m just curious to hear other people’s input on different scriptures or quotes from the society or witnesses that are used out of context.

i’ve always found it funny when a scripture is quoted and applied to whatever point they’re trying to make, but where it was taken from in the bible passage has nothing to do with what they’re getting at..

Xanthippe

Welcome to the forum Nomorejwguilt, I'm glad you asked me that question.

This is the scripture they use as the excuse for changing the doctrines whenever prophecies aren't fulfilled, for example bringing in the overlapping generations doctrines.

'But the path of the righteous one is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established'. - Prov 4 :18 NWT

This verse isn't about new teachings or revelations from God to his people. It's about how well the righteous person lives because the next verse says 'the way of the wicked one is like the darkness, they have not known at what they keep stumbling.'

The paragraph begins at verse 14, 'Into the path of the wicked ones do not enter and do not walk straight on into the way of the bad ones'.

Everything is context and the context here is about being a good person, nothing to do with new prophecies or teachings, new light.

The one that amuses me is verse 24, 'Remove from yourself the crookedness of speech and the deviousness of lips put far away from yourself'.

Six verses away from the one the GB always quote for their new light but they never use it, I wonder why!

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I'm not alone in the congregation, after all

by ohnightdivine in

jw
friends

i can now say that i'm not alone to know ttatt in my congregation, after all.. i have come to know that my close friend is awake, even without me sharing the ttatt with him/her.

on one of our recent conversations i mentioned about being tired and no longer being uplifted anymore, and my friend then told me he/she was feeling the same.

i don't know how it happened but we knew we could trust each other.

Xanthippe

Tosca we're happy to have you with us. I'm glad your son is out too! If you do decide to start a short thread without giving any details that might give you away you will find a lot of support here because you might go unnoticed on this thread.

It's up to you. Feel free to read and just hang out!

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I'm not alone in the congregation, after all

by ohnightdivine in

jw
friends

i can now say that i'm not alone to know ttatt in my congregation, after all.. i have come to know that my close friend is awake, even without me sharing the ttatt with him/her.

on one of our recent conversations i mentioned about being tired and no longer being uplifted anymore, and my friend then told me he/she was feeling the same.

i don't know how it happened but we knew we could trust each other.

Xanthippe

Tosca, welcome to the forum and your freedom. Don't be alone, pull up a chair and when you feel ready tell us about yourself if you're able.

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I'm not alone in the congregation, after all

by ohnightdivine in

jw
friends

i can now say that i'm not alone to know ttatt in my congregation, after all.. i have come to know that my close friend is awake, even without me sharing the ttatt with him/her.

on one of our recent conversations i mentioned about being tired and no longer being uplifted anymore, and my friend then told me he/she was feeling the same.

i don't know how it happened but we knew we could trust each other.

Xanthippe

That's god news ohnightdivine. Good that you finally have someone to talk to and that he/she and their siblings are all awake but trapped in because it suggests there are thousands like this. Just one big child abuse court case or similar and they might all be out.

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Just wanted to share my little bit of good news.

by nicolaou in

i haven't been posting here much lately, i think i only created one topic in 2018!

but this is worth it.. i am a grandfather 😊.

it happens all the time but damn, it feels good.

Xanthippe

Congratulations Nic! Wonderful news, so pleased for you, I can feel your joy from your words.

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Reflecting On Death

by Charles Gillette in

jw
friends

reflecting on death.

i can't remember, maybe steve jobs before he died.i thought i would share it with you and see what you think about it, and i'm quoting i think from his book.. "i'm about fifty-fifty on believing in god.

for most of my life, i've felt that there must be more to our own existence than meets the eye.. i might be overestimating the odds 50/50 out of a desire to believe in an afterlife.

Xanthippe

IS it so small a thing
To have enjoy'd the sun,
To have lived light in the spring,
To have loved, to have thought, to have done;
To have advanced true friends, and beat down baffling foes;	5

That we must feign a bliss
Of doubtful future date,
And while we dream on this
Lose all our present state, Matthew Arnold Live well now and don't worry about things you have no power to change, including death.

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Did you actually read the bible end to end?

by Ultimate Axiom in

in my ten years as a witness i never read the whole bible end to end, what with four magazines a month, the book study, meetings and talk preparations, there just wasn’t the time.

i knew all the important references to ‘prove’ the various jw doctrines, and the cherry picked chapters that help foster the idea that it’s a good book, but that’s not reading it.

well after nearly forty years out, i decided i would do it.

Xanthippe

Yeah I did read it through, didn't think I could preach to other people about it otherwise. So many weird stories, incest, rape, murdering children and even domestic animals in the land of Canaan. Apparently God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. You can keep the God who permitted all that.

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The paranormal.

by Lost in the fog in

i know that a lot of the people on here have turned their backs on the idea of a deity deciding that god does not exist.

but what about the unseen spirit world generally such as poltergeists, jinns, voodoo, etc.

if you have become agnostic, atheist, or just don't care since leaving, do you think that there are spirits out there or have you decided that is also hokum?

Xanthippe

They have a brain and a mind limited as it might be.How are we or science to explain this behavior?

I don't understand, what behaviour? If they experience things they can't tell us about how would we know? What are you trying to say?

For the record I have no evidence at this time of my research to accept that the physical body brain and all of its organs cease to be when death comes to it.

Okay, that's interesting, your research would probably be classed as anecdotal here as I've mentioned but as you say declaring we don't know everything at this time is fine. I feel I'm missing something here so perhaps you could clarify?