just one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
Yet a pioneer couple have no way to get to a convention and they come out the door an a magical envelope of money just appears there along with a travel agent who happens to have a cheap ticket to go exactly where they need to be.
I've always loved fairy stories. Nothing like this ever happened to me when I was one half of a pioneer couple. It wasn't God who looked after us it was our flexible friend. Took years to pay it off.
i have been out for 22 years.i was raised as a jehovahs witness.
i was baptized in 1986 but soon after left the religion.
theres a whole lot to the reasons why i left, but i left.
I'm thinking about going back
Okay. Not sure why you're telling people who have left and are never going back. Do you want us to talk you out of it?
just one day perform some form of miracle in front of the entire earth in which he proves he exists???.
wouldn't this be the most loving and sensible thing to do?
for instance, this coming thursday god repeatedly strikes mount kilamanjaro to the point that it reads in hebrew, "god exists, i just did this.
Oh that would be too easy.
You are supposed to spend you're whole life wondering blindly through religious ideas and reading page after page of riddles in holy books.
If you can't work it out you don't have enough faith and are a bad person.
Alternatively you could feed the hungry, heal the sick, hold the hand of the bereaved or be a hearing ear to those with mental health problems.
Would it make God sad if we did that instead?
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/oct/08/religion.world?view=desktop.
Paul Gillies, the Witnesses' spokesman in Britain, said: "We do not have hostile attitudes to governing bodies and if we are making representations on issues to the UN we will do so."
Yes I met Paul Gillies some years ago at London Bethel. I was engaged to a Bethel boy at the time.
What on earth does this sentence mean?
He seems to be saying, if we want to associate ourselves with the UN we will, so there. Very odd and so arrogant and hypocritical after calling the UN the Wild Beast that turns on religion.
just realized it has been 3 years since i found jwn.. .
took me awhile to find it & went to so many sites!.
landed on rick ferron's scary place with the really wierd music,.
Clarity, Always been a favorite
I second that, Clarity, I always enjoy your posts.
Happy three years out
i hope i have not fully screwed up, it seems like my friends whom i have told my true feelings realy, really, deep down inside, love me, and that's why they have not gone to the elders.
also probably because they know that i love them and would never tell them something if i wasn't 100% convinced and knew that it wasn't true.. .
i guess i can tell you a bit of my story so you can help:.
Welcome ILoveTTATT. Just want to reiterate what others here are saying, well done for waking up and having non-JW friends and family on your side but please be careful of talking to JWs about TTATT. You have a great support system at the moment to help with your fade but go too fast and you could lose a lot of it. I lost all of my JW family and friends and never got them back, that was almost 25years ago! So please be careful, remember you don't have to save the world anymore!
... that they actually have more of a desire to get to knoww you then jehovah's witnesses.
for years at the kingdom hall although i was an elder everyone "knew of me" but no one knew me.
i realized that i never really had a friend who knew anything about me as a person or my background.
Guess you're not so Confusedandalone anymore? Very positive thread, thanks for this.
according to historians, the hebrew language came at a later date and there is strong evidence to support that the original writtings of moses were destroyed and and was re-writen by ezra.. remember that the account explains that moses became part of the egyption royal family, did he learn the arts of horus and others, the same with aaron, why was aaron quick to make a golden calf?
why did the people wanted to become like gods, and why when moses found out made them drink the golden calf?.
1 when the people saw that moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around aaron and said, come, make us gods[a] who will go before us.
Or the original Klingon?
i stumbled upon this on a hungarian ex-jw blog.
does anyone in the uk know anything about this?
of course jws will just see this at "proof" that "the is near!
This is on www.report-it.org.uk. It is a central government site where people can report hate crimes or even hate incidents. In the library that I work in we have been told that anyone can come in and report a hate incident when someone treats them badly because of their race, religion/belief, sexual orientation or disability. I have been wondering for some time if those recently disfellowshipped could use this. If you look at the last line the hate incident includes verbal abuse, harassment and bullying. Surely this would apply to their kangaroo courts?
Report a hate crime or incident
All hate crimes and incidents should be reported. By reporting incidents, you will enable the police, local councils, housing associations etc to build up patterns of behaviour locally, and highlight areas of concern within your community.
But more importantly, you can get the support you may need and help ensure that offenders are brought to justice and cannot to the same to other people.
Why should I report hate crime?
Hate crimes and incidents hurt; they can be confusing and frightening.
By reporting them when they happen to you, you may be able to prevent these incidents from happening to someone else. You will also help the police understand the extent of hate crime in your local area so they can better respond to it.
Reporting makes a difference - to you, your friends, and your life.
How can I report?
There are several ways you can report a hate crime, whether you have been a victim, a witness, or you are reporting on behalf of someone else:
1. In an emergency
•call 999 or 112.
•If you cannot make voice calls, you can now contact the 999 emergency services by SMS text from your mobile phone. However, you will only be able to use this service if you have registered with emergencySMS first. See the emergencySMS website for details. (opens in new window)
2. Contact the police
•Who you can speak to in confidence. You do not have to give your personal details, but please be aware the investigation and ability to prosecute the offender(s) is severely limited if the police cannot contact you. Contact your local police force, either by telephone or by visiting your local police station. Details on how to contact your local police force can be found on the Directgov website (opens in new window).
3. Report online
•You can report online using the facility on this website. Go to the 'Reporting online' page (open in new window).
4. Self reporting form
•You can download the self reporting form and send this to your local police force. The forms, including an Easy Read version, can be found on the 'Report a hate crime' page.
5. Third party reporting centres
•Local agencies such as the Citizens Advice Bureau, Community Voluntary Services etc can also report the incident on your behalf and provide you with advice and support. The 'Organisations that can help' page has a list of organisations that may be able to help you.
•Stop Hate UK provide confidential and independent Hate Crime reporting services in various areas in the UK including a 24 hour helpline.
6. Reporting Terrorist and Extremist Material
•"The internet is used by some people to promote terrorism and extremism. You can challenge and report terrorist and extremist content you find online, which you feel is offensive, or illegal. For more information about what makes online content illegal and how to report it, please visit www.direct.gov.uk/reportingonlineterrorism
7. Crimestoppers
•If you do not want to talk to the police or fill in the reporting forms, you can still report a hate crime by calling Crimestoppers on 0800 555111 or via their website at www.crimestoppers-uk.org (open in new window). You do not have to give your name and what you say is confidential. It is free to call.
•You can give us as little or as much personal information as you wish. But please note:
•With your details... the incident can be investigated fully and you can get the service you deserve and the support you need.
•Without your details... the report will be used for monitoring purposes to get a true vision of what is happening.
I'm ready to report - take me to the reporting page
What can I report?
You can report any incident you believe was motivated by hostility based on your:
•disability
•race
•religion/belief
•sexual orientation
•transgender identity
These incidents may involve physical attacks, verbal abuse, domestic abuse, harassment, damage to your property, bullying or graffiti.
i'm on page 90 right now...the info is definitely new and gives me a totally diff view as to how i used to think of faithful and discreet slave.
i was thoroughly disgusted with the way the brothers handled the oral sex and leadership problem and the insight on the scriptures book...... still have alot of questions though.
Good for you, sounds like you're doing great
It's a process so I don't hold anything into concrete. My views may change and that's what I love abt not being a JW; i can think! So, I'm trying to live a life based on principles. Not on fear or being a people pleaser.
That's the best way, who wants ideas set in concrete? I plan to keep changing my views, as and when new evidence comes along, my whole life. Take care.
