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  The evidence that fluoride lowers IQ is stronger than what was thought

  by What-A-Coincidence in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  fluoride action network.

  http://www.fluoridealert.org.

  fan bulletin 997: new video: vyvyan howard's toronto presentation.

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  Rivergang

  Joey Jojo,

  So much for the “Good old days”
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  Would you be able to survive a three day Assembly?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last assembly i attended was over 10 years ago.

  the monotone speakers, boring talks, uncomfortable seats, long prayers and nodding off after the lunch break did me in.

  i survived the morning sessions, but the afternoon sessions were brutal.

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  the 1969 PEACE ON EARTH 8 day assembly

  As a then "newly interested person", I felt disappointed that I missed that assembly.

  Little did I know!
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  "We're in the last days!"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not just jw's, but countless others (evangelicals etc.

  ) are claiming that we're in the "last days.".

  but........bible students/jw's have been spouting this fake message since the 19th century!!!!!!.

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  Jan,

  For sure, if you must have a religion, stick to one of those “Mainstream” Churches.

  Centuries ago, they may have sat at the more extreme end of the scale. These days, though, that appears to have been bred out of them.
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  Would you be able to survive a three day Assembly?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last assembly i attended was over 10 years ago.

  the monotone speakers, boring talks, uncomfortable seats, long prayers and nodding off after the lunch break did me in.

  i survived the morning sessions, but the afternoon sessions were brutal.

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  Rivergang

  I would rather visit the dentist!
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  "We're in the last days!"

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not just jw's, but countless others (evangelicals etc.

  ) are claiming that we're in the "last days.".

  but........bible students/jw's have been spouting this fake message since the 19th century!!!!!!.

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  The world will indeed end one day - some four billion years from now, when the sun finally runs out of nuclear fuel.
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  The org's "new lights" - corrupting Proverbs 4:18

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  proverbs 4:18 says, "but the path of the righteous....grows brighter and brighter until full daylight.".

  the bible "light" doesn't get brighter - it never changes - it's a person's direction & course of life which gets brighter.. w11 9/15 p. 14 par.

  15 - "when spiritual light on some matter gets brighter, do you try to understand the underlying scriptural reasons for the adjustment?

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  Rivergang

  All a person has to do is read the entire Chapter Four of the Book of Proverbs to see that the way the JWs apply verse 18 is wrong. As peacefulpete notes, Proverbs Chaper 4 has nothing whatsoever to do with doctrine.
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  Gaslighting older JW couples to avoid BLAME

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  https://youtu.be/kvdqtookscu?si=fuqhj44cokmdzkt7.

  one of the greatest issues facing the organization today is couples that sacrificed family life or businesses opportunity in order to preach the many dates the watchtower set in the .

  past only to be betrayed in recent years as the watchtower is moving away from date setting.

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  SBF,

  They were a bit more cunning after 1975.

  Without actually even mentioning a specific year, there was much hype about "The Generation" meaning 70 years, and:

  - 1914 plus 70 years equals what year? (Go figure!)

  The thought was definitely left hanging there, and many fell for it.

  Where I was living during those years of the 1980s, the school leaving age was only 15, and many Witness kids dropped out of school the day they reached that age - all to partake "In the Ministry".

  Earlier to 1975, there had been widespread speculation that "The Generation" was possibly 40 years in length, making the years 1953/54 a possible time for the end. Persons affected by that would now be of advanced age, but still possibly alive,

  One of the greatest issues facing the organization today is couples that sacrificed family life or businesses opportunity in order to preach the many dates the Watchtower set in the past.

  Consequently, I would not be too hard on Raymond Frantz,
  
  
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  Is 1st Century advice on marriage still relevant in today’s modern world?

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  republicans want to make a law that forbids ‘uncontested divorce”.

  they based this on this scripture.. matthew 19. is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”.

  4 “haven’t you read,” jesus replied, “that at the beginning the creator ‘made them male and female,’and said, ‘for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ so they are no longer two, but one flesh.

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  Liam,

  A bit like the story of the blacksmith who charged one cent for the first nail, double that for the second, double that again for the third one - until by the time he had driven in all 32 horse shoe nails , the horse’s owner had clocked up a bill of millions.
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  Is 1st Century advice on marriage still relevant in today’s modern world?

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  republicans want to make a law that forbids ‘uncontested divorce”.

  they based this on this scripture.. matthew 19. is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”.

  4 “haven’t you read,” jesus replied, “that at the beginning the creator ‘made them male and female,’and said, ‘for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ so they are no longer two, but one flesh.

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  I would hardly consider as "timeless" any system that once permitted such activities as polygamy and concubinage - yet later practically condemned a man for even thinking about such things. (Then again, perhaps it is a just bit too much for a busted-@$$ electrician like myself to take in!)
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  WT needs your kids uneducated: CO training video is Master Class in F.O.G. This is jaw-droppingly stupid. Beyond moronic, it's sub-moronic.

  by WingCommander in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  co training video: link to ex-jw reddit thread discussion.

  today is the first time i was made aware of this actual elder body video.

  it's training for how a co should handle elder's whose children decide to pursue further education.

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  @vienne

  And there is definitely an associations problem

  No more so, though, than a young person would experience in most workplaces.