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  gossip

  by Nancy1919 in

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  i was once was told by an jw elder it was a rule not to gossip or swear as it could harm someone, but i guess the new light allows this.

  it was bad enough when they were calling people worldly now i heard a jw gossiping about someone and it was mean.just another reason i would never go back.

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  Rivergang

  “Three people can keep a secret only if two of them are dead”.

  Benjamin Franklin.
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  Beard quote from WT 1975

  by joey jojo in

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  extreme hair styles can easily lead one into a trap of the devil also, and cause others to stumble.

  for example, a young man in the united states was making fine progress in his study of the bible, and he was moved to share with an experienced witness in preaching to others about the good things he was learning from the bible.

  from early youth he had let his beard grow, and since some in the business community wore beards, he felt that his wearing one in preaching to others would be acceptable generally.

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  Rivergang

  Back in the day, we all heard that story. Whether it actually happened, of course, is another matter entirely.

  If W. Schnell is to be believed (as he claims in 30 Years a Watchtower Slave) this thing they had about beards was all just a power trip. Many had taken to imitating CT Russell by wearing a “goatee” type beard. After Russell’s death Boozerford Rutherford forbade beards, just to remind the rank-and-file that he was now running the show.
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  The case from Denmark - setttled in The European Court

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. medical

  beninu andersen.

  denmark.

  i am not aware of how many of you are familiar with the danish case of a jehovah's witness who was hospitalized after a tragic accident where he fell several floors from a scaffolding where he was working.. the patient was admitted to the intensive care unit and was conscious (albeit somewhat confused) for the first three weeks.

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  Rivergang

  This is not terribly different from a first-aid situation.

  If the patient is conscious, then the first aider must obtain the injured person's consent to give treatment. However, if the casualty is unconscious, then the situation of "implied consent" becomes applicable - in which case first aid treatment may be given without obtaining the consent of the patient.
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  Creation, Not Evolution Best Explains Genetics

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umnhg0a9dlu.

  evolutionists can change their model, and invent stories whenever they want to accomodate data.

  biblical literalists are stuck with just one model, one account, and are unable to change it.

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  Rivergang

  Kaleb,

  Once again, well said - particularly when dealing with a non subject matter expert!
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  The unending and fruitless argument on Trinity

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  those who say they are christians or follow christianity needs .

  1. father .

  2. jesus .

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  Rivergang

  Even if he does (which I doubt), it won’t be the end of the matter. A bit like a game of “Whack a Mole”, there will be scores there to take his place.
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  The unending and fruitless argument on Trinity

  by Longlivetherenegades in

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  those who say they are christians or follow christianity needs .

  1. father .

  2. jesus .

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  Rivergang

  An argument which has been going on now for over 1500 years is unlikely to be settled anytime soon!
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  Unlocking Hidden Meanings: A Fresh Look at the Creation of Eve

  by TimWexler in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello!i am an independent scholar and researcher with a deep curiosity for ancient cultures and texts.

  i do not adhere to any religious tradition, but my passion for understanding the mysteries of our past has led me to explore biblical stories in depth.

  my particular interest lies in the original hebrew text of the bible, which i find fascinating both as literature and as a source of historical riddles.i recently completed a study that might change the way you perceive some well-known biblical stories.

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  Rivergang

  Thanks once more, Kaleb, for setting the discussion fairly and squarely back on the ground!
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  Creation, Not Evolution Best Explains Genetics

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umnhg0a9dlu.

  evolutionists can change their model, and invent stories whenever they want to accomodate data.

  biblical literalists are stuck with just one model, one account, and are unable to change it.

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  Rivergang

  Kaleb,

  Thanks as always for your input. It is always interesting to hear things from a Jewish point of view. A point of view, which, I hasten to add, should always be considered - as after all, it was your people who compiled the writings of the Old Testament. (Something, which, in the “Fog of War”, seems to have completely lost sight of!)
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  Half hearted JWs compared to past generations

  by JohnR1975 in

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  is it just me or has there been a massive change in jws of late?.

  when i grew up in the cult they had a real sense of urgency and would do an hour minimum, these days it’s not even ten mins before coffee break.. same goes for everything else, it’s half hearted .

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  Rivergang

  Since before COVID, the only ones who have knocked on my door are from the LDS
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  How frequent is this among Jehovah's Witnesses

  by vienne in

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  my grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.

  two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.

  so is my grand uncle.

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  Rivergang

  According to Raymond Franz, in Crisis of Conscience, the then president of the Watchtower Society once even volunteered that the JWs do not care for the welfare of their rank and file members. Furthermore, he (Nathan Knorr) then went on to admit that such groups as the LDS do a much better job of that than the Witnesses.

  What else is there to say?