I can readily identify with what just fine says. Over the last 44 years, I have worked at all levels in the industry from labourer to senior management. Almost without exception, salaried staff (roughly middle management and above) were expected to work as many hours as required in order to get the job done. While the official working week around here is 38 hours, it would not look too good at your annual review if, each day, (as a salaried worker) you walked out the door after only 7.6 hours.
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Some Jw's are the worst employees
by Foolednomore ini found a company and employed an elder as an underwriter and two ms as sales and marketing.
anyway, this elder will delegate his work to the ms in sales and marketing, so he can go home early.
he knew when he got started that this would be a 10 hour a day job with some saturday.
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History repeated: pre-1975 trend of selling homes to ‘downsize’
by LongHairGal ini saw this thread on reddit.
i think the reason for this is that the 1975 fiasco is never mentioned in the jw religion.
nobody mentioned it to me when i came in the years after.. the problem with this is that all the sad stories were never told (or hushed up) of people who sold off homes, etc.
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Rivergang
I remember a CO at a circuit meeting in the 90's, who stated "those of you who are complaining about not having a good job and income because of wrong choices in 1975, you did it your self! Don't blame the society!", he said.
That is called "blaming the victim", and is - sad to say - something that happens a lot.
In this specific case, it is also very dishonest. You can't go praising people up for selling their homes and "pioneering" on the proceeds (as the WTS did in a 1974 Kingdom Ministry), then afterwards deny responsibility when it all turns to custard.
Yet another example of the way in which that bloody lot always wants to have it both ways!
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THIS MAN Changed your life - Did you know that?
by Terry inthis man changed your life - did you know that?.
our story begins 6 years later in 1782 in pittsfield, massachusetts.
there is a family of 16 children called the miller family.
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Rivergang
Further evidence of how it is entirely possible to win all your arguments - yet still be completely wrong.
Amongst other things, Miller made frequent use of the typical propagandist's trick of having on hand a stock "answer to everything". This still made him no more correct than anybody else, though!
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Rivergang
In contrast with the JWs, they are a more family-friendly religion. Also, according to the late Raymond Franz, Nathan Knorr himself once volunteered that the Mormons “look after their people better” than do the JWs.
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How many here turned Athiest or did not and why??
by Witness 007 inme i slowly came to see religion was a crutch we use to dream of a better "afterlife"....i feel half my life was wasted building an organisation that had no criminal mastermind behind it...just alot of mislead people looking for leadership.
if your still religious explain why..
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Rivergang
It’s Freedom of Religion gone too far.
I am pleased to hear somebody acknowledge that no freedoms are absolute!
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How many here turned Athiest or did not and why??
by Witness 007 inme i slowly came to see religion was a crutch we use to dream of a better "afterlife"....i feel half my life was wasted building an organisation that had no criminal mastermind behind it...just alot of mislead people looking for leadership.
if your still religious explain why..
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Rivergang
Two world wars were fought upholding such rights as Freedom of Worship. Too many people died in both for me to want to interfere with that! (Read, if somebody wants to attend a church service, then let them).
Personally, though - to quote the late Minimus - I am definitely in a condition best described as “ Religioned Out”.
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Best part from the bible even an atheist loves...could change the world (Ukraine.)
by Witness 007 inas an atheist i now still love these comments better then anything in shakespeare.
(jesus) "return your sword to its place, for he who lives by the sword shall die by the sword....love your neighbour as yourself.
turn the other cheek.
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Rivergang
Smiddy3,
The term “Head F#ck” comes to mind here!
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No beards...even Jesus! Strange Watchower rule for brothers!
by Witness 007 inwatchtower 1954 p.511 "why do watchtower publications now show jesus with short hair and no beard?
because he is shown that way in older representations of him that are older then the traditional effeminate looking pictures.".
watchtower 1968 p.286 "bible evidence and a recent review shows that jesus did have a beard..." charles russell style of beard was popular at bethel...till rutherford took over.
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Rivergang
The ban on beards seems to be very much an institutionalised thing amongst the JWs. Even in those countries - such as Papua New Guinea - where men commonly wear beards, the ban on beards remains amongst the JWs.
And when I first started getting involved with that lot, I remember them claiming not to have any “man made rules”!
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Blood Transfusions & Flood, Questions from Bible student only
by Marbles ini was never a jdubb, only a bible student.
there are two main questions i have.
let me preface that by saying that i do not believe the bible is true, or the word of god.
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Rivergang
Having worked for several recent years as a maintenance electrician in a large meat processing facility, I can confirm that the animals are rendered unconscious first, before being killed when their throats are slashed. Cattle are knocked unconscious by means of a pneumatic hammer applied to the forehead. Sheep are rendered unconscious from an electric shock applied behind the ears. As to suffering, animals can sense death, and know what is coming. That is why it usually requires the use of an electric “cattle prod” to drive them up the race and into the “knock-box”. I always took the view that “people have to eat”.
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JW’s and Charity Organizations
by longgone ini was wondering if anyone is aware of the jw’s in general being involved financially and/or as volunteers in charity organizations?
i was a born in jw for 56 years and left in 2016. as far as i remember there was never any encouragement to help in the community in any way.
including soup kitchens, tutoring at schools, united way, etc.
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Rivergang
They certainly don't mind accepting charity, even from religious organisations. In fact, the elders even once directed me to Presbyterian Social Services for assistance. Cheeky buggers!