why did jesus arrive invisible?
what is he supposedly to do.
for mankind since 1914?
Don't know what purpose it serves, but Marvel comics has a lot to answer for. The original idea/excuse was thought up while the GB was sitting around reading the Fantastic 4.....
It makes so much sense now!
Obviously Stan Lee is ghost writing for the gb!
hi my name is crystle.
( i dont care if my congregation finds out what i am posting.
i havent been "in" for ten years and i have already told severl members what i think and where they can shove it...:/) i am 27 years old, and a single mother of a wonderful 6 year old.
Welcome! I'm a newb also, but I already feel right at home amonsgt the members here.
We all have been through an ordeal emotionally, and some like yourself physically. I can't even begin to understand how painful your experience has been, but like some others have stated, therapy would help immensly.
I was in a really dark place a couple years ago, and even though after all the years I'd been away from the org, it still felt wrong somehow to seek help.
it was at that moment when it finally dawned on me how damaging that bs org had been to me and my family. I made the decision to go and it saved my life. Literally.
Please get help for yourself first, and it will become so crystal clear that you HAVE to get your little one out of that environment. Little kids are sponges, and espescially smart kids which it sounds like yours is!
Thanks for sharing your story and just know that there are lots of friendly people here.
i went for 2-1/2 years without a truck- my wife told i would never survive without a truck-- i think she is a smart cookie- it was so hard going to garage sales with a small hatchback and not being able to buy that moosehead for my man-cave.. anyway- this is a former comcast cable tv truck- it was repainted and from the looks of the interior, it looks like a supervisor drove it carefully for 237,000 miles - which is a record for me - i got it for $2200- a 2001 ford f-150.
it had an old leaky transmission- which i have just had replaced with a rebuilt one for $950- i am getting 18-19mpg, so i think that v6 will last me for a long time- retirees don't put a lot of miles on their rides-- - and no rust- anywhere!.
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I can only imagine!
i went for 2-1/2 years without a truck- my wife told i would never survive without a truck-- i think she is a smart cookie- it was so hard going to garage sales with a small hatchback and not being able to buy that moosehead for my man-cave.. anyway- this is a former comcast cable tv truck- it was repainted and from the looks of the interior, it looks like a supervisor drove it carefully for 237,000 miles - which is a record for me - i got it for $2200- a 2001 ford f-150.
it had an old leaky transmission- which i have just had replaced with a rebuilt one for $950- i am getting 18-19mpg, so i think that v6 will last me for a long time- retirees don't put a lot of miles on their rides-- - and no rust- anywhere!.
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You never realize how many friends you have until you own a truck. You'll be a popular fella whenever somwone moves/needs to pick up a fridge etc!
Congrats, that's a good looking truck. I'm driving a 2000 Volvo with 244,000 on the odo. Runs and drives like a dream.
so i have something interesting to share.. i am a jehovah's witness.
i have been in the truth for 26 years of my life.
as a young boy i deeply loved the truth.
Please get help soon. Self destructive behavior is one thing, but messing with other people's lives for fun is quite another thing.
One thing to consider- why are you so sure everyone around you adores you? Ever think maybe they are acting as well? Everyone isn't as stupid as you may think.
i know that all everyone's experience vary but i ask this because i am under the impression that since jw's are taught to avoid reading material that may be critical of their teachings they just stay away.
yet many of you violated this at some point to come accross information that confirmed or convinced you of "the problems" with the org.
i have also spoken to active jw's online who seem to know the controvercies but still defend the org vigorously.
I always felt uncomfortable at meetings, and like others have posted in this thread it just didn't feel right.
I think this feeling was compounded by my childhood in general. A tyrannical father that was prone to fits of rage with severe punishments for my sister and I, as well as an emotionally distant mother hiding behind the submissive wife excuse.
All of a sudden though, periodically throughout the week you'd have to put on uncomfortable clothes, go sit in uncomfortable seats, be bored to tears while the same old tired doctrines were rehashed, all the while painting a smile on my face and acting like everything was hunky-dory. This was a mandate of course of course from the iron fist ruler dad. To not appear happy and sociable would have serious consequences.
I never was baptised and just passively faded in my teens. I never felt close to ANYONE at the hall, and the concept of having a personal relationship with Jehovah was (and is) lost on me.
By chance a few months ago I decided to do a google search on witnesses and was blown away with the amount of info. It was weird, still after all these years, at first, I felt like it was "wrong" to research the org for myself. I quickly dispatched those feelings however and have gone full steam ahead in researching everything I can get my hands on.
It has amazed me how many memories are flooding back that apparantly I've buried deep down, while reading everyone's thoughts and experiences.
I'm just so happy a place like this exists. I can't thank everyone here enough. This really is the start of a journey I never knew I needed to take until now.
i never was a jehovahs witness.
its been stated.
so if i went up to a local congregation and knocked on the door how would i get to talk to an elder about my mother in law.... i have no interest in being a witness.
If I remember correctly the "official" stated policy about DF'd ones was that direct family could associate with them, espescially if they lived under the same roof, provided they didn't discuss spiritual matters. But like most things with the org, I'm sure this has probably changed over the years.
I would guess your evidence of so-called wrongdoing probably won't make any difference in the situation.
u.s. open sponsor moet leads champagne toast to champion serena williams, a jehovah's witness who does not drinkreporters on tight deadline wait for inappropriate-feeling homage before williams can begin press conference.comments (7).
by filip bondy / new york daily newsmonday, september 10, 2012, 12:00 am.
howard simmons/new york daily newsserena williams is thrilled about winning the u.s. open, but she will not celebrate with a champagne toast due to her religious beliefs.. there was an awkward interval sunday night in the press interview room, when the u.s. open sponsors, moet, delivered a trolley of small champagne bottles to the assembled media who already had waited an hour to ask post-match questions of serena williams.. before williams could begin answering questions, usta ceo gordon smith led a toast that basically called williams victory the greatest match in open history.. .
Money talks...
the past two week's worth of wt studies have made a couple points that appear contradictory in nature.
yesterday was too much, i felt at least.
either there's another faction within the writing department fighting for the equivalent of airtime in the literature, or they're all so indoctrinated that they fail to see the irony in what they publish.. for instance, take paragraph 5 from last week's lesson.. 5. unlike the law codes of many countries, "the perfect law" is neither complex nor burdensome but consists of simple commandements and principles.
Thanks for the warm welcome everyone!
And I agree that the lack of any kind of formal higher education for most of those folks has to be suspect when looking at an article like the one being discussed here. That being said, I certainly consider myself as being a safe distance from genius.
Sadly though, I think it doesn't even register with r&f witnesses when such glaringly obvious contradictions are staring them right in the face.
I think they just get caught up in the lifestyle and unless something happens to them personally that they feel is unfair, they will never start to question and see the absurdity in what is staring them right in the face.
I know I have learned quite a bit in the last six months myself..
the past two week's worth of wt studies have made a couple points that appear contradictory in nature.
yesterday was too much, i felt at least.
either there's another faction within the writing department fighting for the equivalent of airtime in the literature, or they're all so indoctrinated that they fail to see the irony in what they publish.. for instance, take paragraph 5 from last week's lesson.. 5. unlike the law codes of many countries, "the perfect law" is neither complex nor burdensome but consists of simple commandements and principles.
Hi everyone, I've been around a few weeks and really enjoy the site. I was a born in that never was baptised and passively faded as circumstances allowed.
I had an ephiphany a few months back to look up JW on the internet for no apparent reason. What a revelation! (No pun intended.) I purchased COC and read it and I have to be honest, it was painful to read.
Even though I knew the org was not for me, I still had a certain amount of respect for it. I quickly realized this was lingering mind conditioning and was literally sickened to my stomach and would have to set the book down frequently as more and more things were revealed.
Since then, I have been on a personal quest to try to sort my own feeelings out and try to make sense of how damaged I am as a result of growing up in a high control environment, presided over by a mentally unstable father and mother who it seems were hell bent on making sure my sister and I were the "perfect" witness children at all costs.
It is so comforting to read so many other people's thoughts and memories on this site and others. I truly am not alone in my feelings as I thought I was. And even though I have not chatted with anyone yet, the overwhelming amount of love and genuine concern for others that I see and feel from this board makes me feel like I've finally found a real family.
elderelite: Your "fistbump" story reminds of years ago when I was working with other "brothers" on replacing the roof on the KH, the CO scolded me and and two others in front of everyone about the worldliness of wearing our ball caps backwards. That was one of the few times I remember even the supposedly most spiritual of the group grumble that it wasn't biblical, just one guy's opinion.
Thanks for having this place to help with the healing process
