Wow! If I was a JW looking for help, like I was last year, this thread would have sent me running.
Phoebe
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talked to jw woman on corner then later family fight with jw dad
by JunkYardDog ini had to go into a office close to a supermarket on a very high traffic expressway with next to no persons on the street anyway ever near.
i see this jw lady about 65 yrs old standing there alone with 2 bags of groceries staring at the catholic church one side across the interstate road and the kh across the other side of the highway.
cross bronx expressway.
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Not Being Invited To Gatherings.
by kennylazo1 inhave you ever found out that your "buddies" from the kingdom hall went out to have fun and did not invite you?
if so how did you feel?.
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Phoebe
I've been in many congregations - both sides of the pond - and I don't think I've been in one that wasn't cliquey.
I don't think I noticed it when the kids were small as I was too busy being a mum and it didn't bother me if we weren't included, but in my past (and present) congregation we were rarely included in things and more so when my husband and kids stopped going and it was just me. I couldn't get anyone to go out in service with me let alone get invited to anything!
Two of the kids decided to go to university, so I would have been labelled bad association. Some sisters made it quite obvious I wasn't wanted.
It felt very lonely at times. But like LongHairGal it made it easier to fade because no one was that bothered that I wasn't there.
Sometimes congregations will revolve around a couple of big families and they will have their mates. If you are not part of the entourage, you won't get included.
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Blood Directive
by Phoebe inis there a new blood form to fill out?
maybe it's been mentioned here and i've missed it but when they were chasing me with the gdpr, they also mentioned they wanted to me to fill out a new blood directive.
not that they'll be chasing me for much longer ;).
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Phoebe
Is there a new blood form to fill out? Maybe it's been mentioned here and I've missed it but when they were chasing me with the GDPR, they also mentioned they wanted to me to fill out a new blood directive. Not that they'll be chasing me for much longer ;)
Anyway, I was watching Witness Nomore on Youtube and he said he'd been contacted by two witnesses who were very concerned about the new blood form. I just wondered if everyone had been asked to fill out a new form.
My apologies if this has already been discussed.
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Our very own pale.emperor on the "shunned" podcast.......
by dubstepped inwell, i offered in one of his threads to have him on the show and posters seemed excited at the possibility and we got it done so now you can hear from the man himself on the newest episode of "shunned".
one of our very own stepped up to tell his story, well, aside from myself of course.
it was great getting to actually speak with him.. this is my first international interview for the podcast.
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Phoebe
It was really great. I love pale's accent :)
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A & E documentary - family fall-out
by Tallon injust seen this on exjw reddit - sickening beyond belief!.
long story short, we have not seen hubbys non identical twin nephews (jeremey and jerome) since we gave the middle finger to the jw's 7 or 8 years ago.
we last saw our nephews when they were 9 or 10ish.
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Phoebe
I'm with dubstepped and Sail Away on this. My parents were fanatical JWs, too.
I wasn't allowed any contact with the outside world whatsoever. I was not allowed to use the phone.
I went to regular school but straight home after, absolutely no talking to school mates after school. Any contact with anyone or anything outside JW world was totally forbidden and punishable.
If I didn't answer in the meetings I was severely berated afterwards. And one answer wan't good enough, it had to be several answers. I wasn't allowed to go to the toilet during the meeting, even if I was desperate. On one occasion this resulted in me wetting myself (I was about 8) and oh my god, I was dragged from the hall and flung into the car - sobbing. My father was livid with rage. I thought he was going to kill me.
Assemblies/conventions - they had to know where I was every single second.
No watching television at night.
Weekends - ministry on both Saturday and Sunday. No choice. You had to go.
My speech was also restricted. I had to use the right words or my father would go ballistic. I once made the fatal mistake of saying someone was 'pregnant' I was sent to my room in disgrace for using a 'filthy' word. Apparently, I should have said 'with child'
The control didn't even end when I was older. I pioneered and worked in an office full of smokers (they did in those days) when I came home from work my father insisted on smelling my breath to make sure I hadn't smoked. My bag was checked for cigarettes.
When I rebelled at 19 and left home, my parents used people to spy on my apartment and when I went in and out was logged and reported to the elders.
I was told repeatedly if I didn't tow the line they would 'publicly disown me'
That coupled with sexual abuse....and I wonder why I ended up being treated by a psychologist!
So, yes. I totally believe the story on reddit.
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Ex-Jehovah's Witness Recovering Group 3 and This Site
by dubstepped ini don't remember seeing it ever really talked about here but the facebook group with the namesake of this post shut down at the end of march.
it was archived and they weren't clear as to when or if they would come back.
it seemed to come out of nowhere, and i know a lot of people were disappointed.
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Phoebe
I ditto on the sentiments expressed above.
This site quite literally saved me when I first woke up. I was in such turmoil and anguish and I came across this site and well, the love, support and guidance I got from everyone was overwhelming. I don't think I would be where I am today if it hadn't been for this site. I have made some really good friends and I continue to benefit from the wealth of knowledge and experience.
So, Simon, a huge thank you from me!
xx
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GDPR Day
by Phoebe inso, it's may 25th - gdpr day.
has anyone had a last minute visit from the elders?.
i've been out shopping and i have come home to find a note pushed through the door saying two elders and one elder's wife had called by.. why would two elders + wife come to see me?
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Phoebe
LongHairGal
That's terrible. Virtually black mailing people to sign.
Yes, you are right. I am on their radar.
But, they can do what they like as I stopped going over a year ago and my kids and husband gave up years ago. So I have no one left in the WT I care about.
The two elders that came my husband calls them 'good cop, bad cop'
They will just not leave us in peace!
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GDPR Day
by Phoebe inso, it's may 25th - gdpr day.
has anyone had a last minute visit from the elders?.
i've been out shopping and i have come home to find a note pushed through the door saying two elders and one elder's wife had called by.. why would two elders + wife come to see me?
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Phoebe
So, it's May 25th - GDPR day. Has anyone had a last minute visit from the elders?
I've been out shopping and I have come home to find a note pushed through the door saying two elders and one elder's wife had called by.
Why would two elders + wife come to see me? Sounds like one too many people and I am suspicious.
Not sure if it's to do with the GDPR - which I won't sign and have avoided since they first asked.
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Witness No More - any thoughts?
by dozy infor those who don't know , there is an ex-jw "activist" in the north of england called mark who demonstrates outside kingdom halls , focusing on the child abuse issue and similar topics.
he regularly updates his visits on his youtube channel , which has gained something of a cult following .
occasionally ( albeit less frequently , as he is now well known ) he gets into the kh & shouts and disrupts the meeting.
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Phoebe
There has been a lot of stuff going off in Hull if any of you know about it. A witch hunt to get rid of anyone with 'apostate' leanings. The C.O sounds a piece of work and there are tapes of judicial committees etc and tapes of the C.O talking about having a 'purge' in the circuit. They even DF an older gentleman who was of the anointed and Mark has a very good interview with a lovely lady who was also involved and went to the newspaper.
It's been kicking off for awhile in Hull. Mark is just part of what has been happening.
He isn't asking for money to live on and be a full time activist. He's asking - reluctantly - because the WT are probably taking him to court and he needs a solicitor. He didn't want to ask for help, he said so. He didn't necessarily want money either, just if anyone could help him with the legal process.
I don't agree with his method at all but he feels very strongly about what has been happening up there and it's his way. He feels if he stops then WT has won.
He's a single parent with a son with learning disabilities, I think. I personally feel he's done his bit and should continue with his activism online if he wants to do something. His son needs him.
I've been following him from the beginning and he comes across as a nice, geniune person.
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What Should I Say?
by cookiemaster ini need a bit of advice.
i've been pimo for a long time and fading more and more.
i occasionally attend for family but never give any answers or actively participate in any way.
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Phoebe
From my own experience I'd try not to meet with him if possible but if you do, say as little as possible so you don't incriminate yourself.
I got a lot of advice from everyone on this forum when I left. When the elders came after me, I basically thanked them for their concern and told them I was fine but had some issues I was dealing with and I'd call them if I needed their help and then I avoided them.
We also had a gestapo elder. The kind that got brothers to confide in them and then used that info to get them removed as ministerial servants or whatever. The kind that when you let him into the house his eyes are darting everywhere looking for something to get you on.
You just have to keep a low profile, your mouth shut as much as possible and when you do speak, as DOC says above - do not say anything negative.