Posts by FedUpJW

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Lies, Damn Lies.

by Lost in the fog in

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/home-and-garden/jehovahs-witnesses-to-resume-in-person-services-opt-not-to-resume-door-to-door-ministry/ar-aavnxv0 .

so apparently robert hendricks the spin doctor of the wt society has been proudly telling news channels how wonderful the wt org has been during the 2 years of the pandemic, checking in with each and every member to meet their needs on a weekly basis.. except, based on the comments of former jw friends on facebook, it's news to most of them since they are screaming out that they were totally neglected by the elders/ms throughout most of that period.

a couple even said that because of being ignored by the congregation during this time, that they have walked away completely.

FedUpJW

Yet, believe it or not , JWs were told that these government-sponsored gift boxes were evidence of Jehovah taking care of them.

Kind of like this email I received less than two months ago (sent to the entire contacts list of an eldurr):

"You can follow the link in the email and order 4 free COVID home test kits. It is nice to know that The Slave is always watching out for us. While it is a decision that each family head should make please remember that this is another way we can show our respect for life, and our obedience to The Slave."

I wonder what the government had to do with this? I was able to get the same exact home test kits across the counter at the local pharmacy, and was told to feel free to take as many as I wanted. I also got a "visit" from another local eldurr last night informing me that, "We have been permitted by the governing body and The Branch to resume in person meetings at the kingdom hall just in time for the memorial and special talk. I am sure YOU will want to be there!" Then I was reminded of the mask mandate, the distancing mandate, and the other rules for anyone to be there in person and I told him that if it was still that dangerous to be there then I would decline to attend. His reply? "All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."

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Lies, Damn Lies.

by Lost in the fog in

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/home-and-garden/jehovahs-witnesses-to-resume-in-person-services-opt-not-to-resume-door-to-door-ministry/ar-aavnxv0 .

so apparently robert hendricks the spin doctor of the wt society has been proudly telling news channels how wonderful the wt org has been during the 2 years of the pandemic, checking in with each and every member to meet their needs on a weekly basis.. except, based on the comments of former jw friends on facebook, it's news to most of them since they are screaming out that they were totally neglected by the elders/ms throughout most of that period.

a couple even said that because of being ignored by the congregation during this time, that they have walked away completely.

FedUpJW

In 2 years my neighbor had no JW visitors. She was alone and very depressed. She felt neglected and abandoned. So much for love amongst themselves.

I've quoted my father many times, here and elsewhere, when he said shortly before he died, "Jehovah's Witnesses these days have "love" on their lips, but NONE in their hearts!" Both he and my mother were ignored, made fun of and kicked to the curb after decades of Christlike actions towards others, just because they were old, and one suffered from Alzheimer's.

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I got robbed this morning!

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

first of all… i am ok. i was robbed at the gas station this morning.

after my hands stopped trembling, i managed to call the police.

they were quick to respond and calmed me down, but all my money is gone.

FedUpJW

What you are hearing from anti-oil, pro green new deal lobbyists and leftist political pundits is a mix of half truths and distortions.

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Vid obsession

by punkofnice in

i'm interested in your thoughts.. the media tells us a lot of agenda driven propaganda.

you're hard pressed to spot truth these days.. however, i'm told that the rona is now just a rotten flu and not the plague we were originally terrified in to believing.

last time i heard it was down in the hit parade to 16th nasty health thing.. all the people and family i know that have had the rona, have been complaining it's a very crappy flu.

FedUpJW

I read them and spent a lot of time not only explaining it to people but explaining how to use it correctly.

Good for you. A question though. If you reside in the U.S. did you also comply with this?

In the U.S., a written respiratory protection program must be implemented meeting all the requirements of OSHA 1910.134 including training, fit testing and medical evaluation.

I ask because in pre-retirement employment I often was required to work in hazardous atmosphere environments where the use of N95's at a minimum was mandated. I was also required to completely read that OSHA rule. A long, mind numbing read by the way. I still do not believe the average person will either read, understand, or comply with ALL the training, fit testing requirements, or the requirement of a medical evaluation prior to using N95's. Also of note, these are by design disposable, one time use respirators.

I still maintain these are more about control of the population, and less about safety.

However, if one feels better wearing one, by all means do so. Feel free to wear two, three, or more at a time if one feels that need. Just DON'T tell me I have to do so.

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Vid obsession

by punkofnice in

i'm interested in your thoughts.. the media tells us a lot of agenda driven propaganda.

you're hard pressed to spot truth these days.. however, i'm told that the rona is now just a rotten flu and not the plague we were originally terrified in to believing.

last time i heard it was down in the hit parade to 16th nasty health thing.. all the people and family i know that have had the rona, have been complaining it's a very crappy flu.

FedUpJW

Did the fear work?

Yes, and very well. Regardless of what many people sadly believe, this was NEVER about the powers-that-be having the best interests of the population in mind. It was ALWAYS about control of the population.

U.S. Centers for Disease Controls tells us that the use of an N95 mask, which is designated a respirator, is required to assist in cutting down the spread of COVID-19.

And yet the manufacture of N95 respirators says this right on the box:

N95 is a disposable particulate respirator that is designed to help provide reliable respiratory protection of at least 95 percent filtration efficiency against certain non-oil based particles. This respirator is designed for use for particles such as those from grinding, sanding, sweeping, sawing, bagging, or other dusty operations. This respirator can also help reduce inhalation exposures to certain airborne biological particles (examples: mold, Bacillus anthracis, Mycobacterium tuberculosis), but cannot eliminate the risk of contracting infection, illness, or disease. The respirator incorporates 3M’s proprietary technology with advanced electrostatically charged microfiber filter media designed for ease of breathing. This respirator is compatible with a variety of protective eyewear and hearing protection.

WARNING: These respirators help reduce exposures to certain airborne contaminants. Before use, the wearer must read and understand the User Instructions provided as a part of the product packaging. In the U.S., a written respiratory protection program must be implemented meeting all the requirements of OSHA 1910.134 including training, fit testing and medical evaluation.

Now I wonder how many read those instructions, much less actually understand and follow them? My bet is ZERO! Oh well, as long as they comply and virtue signal how sheep-like they are I guess it is all good.

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Miniimizing 'Punishment' - marrying a non-JW

by doasthouwilt in

i’d like to marry my best friend of 30+ years, turned ‘secret’ girlfriend of 1 ½ years who is a jehovah’s witness, born into it, baptized and an active ‘pioneer’.

our marriage would happen prior to letting any of her jw friends and cohorts know that we are together.

once married she may simply come forward and ‘admit’ or we may wait until it’s found out – one way or the other, the reason for this marriage is not customary – i am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point, there can be no notion from society elders about her ending the relationship.

FedUpJW

Any JW can be disfellowshipped at any time for any reason 3 JW elders agree upon.
That's not hyperbole.

Those are the EXACT words my father, who was an elder truly deserving of the term shepherd said. He was pretty well hated by other "elders" for his realistic take on Da Troof.

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Miniimizing 'Punishment' - marrying a non-JW

by doasthouwilt in

i’d like to marry my best friend of 30+ years, turned ‘secret’ girlfriend of 1 ½ years who is a jehovah’s witness, born into it, baptized and an active ‘pioneer’.

our marriage would happen prior to letting any of her jw friends and cohorts know that we are together.

once married she may simply come forward and ‘admit’ or we may wait until it’s found out – one way or the other, the reason for this marriage is not customary – i am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point, there can be no notion from society elders about her ending the relationship.

FedUpJW

I am hoping that by doing so she can avoid being ‘marked’ or possibly ‘disfellowshipped’ once our relationship is no longer a secret and due to our already being married at that point. What I’m most wanting is input on details on what sort of ‘punishment’ she may expect once our marriage is public to all and input on what society elders can and cannot do over willful marriage of a baptized JW to an ardent disbeliever.

She will be DF'd for the catch-all accusation of "brazen conduct" unless she manages to cry and plead for mercy, in which case the least that will happen is that she will be marked as unwholesome association and treated as if she were disfellowshipped until she has groveled enough, long enough to satisfy their vindictive attitudes. My question is, why do you either want to play by their rules?

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Memorial invite

by JoenB75 in

now they start inviting to their "commemorate the death of jesus" event.

it always makes me a bit sad.

i don’t think i could endure to watch it myself today.

FedUpJW

We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know.

But were gonna count every last one of them anyway, and report that number claiming that any decrease is proof that the end is near, or that an increase is proof that the end is near and the last ones are being gathered in just before the end of the end of the end right before the real end.

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Memorial invite

by JoenB75 in

now they start inviting to their "commemorate the death of jesus" event.

it always makes me a bit sad.

i don’t think i could endure to watch it myself today.

FedUpJW

unless the 'slave' guides them.

Whenever I happen to get in a conversation with PIMI JW's who use that term I Ask them why they do not refer to who "the slave" is? then I proceed to ask questions about what the governing body is telling them, and substitute governing body for "the slave" every chance I get. A PIMI friend told me I should not do that because it makes it sound like they follow men.

Everyone just has to touch the emblems like they have been poisoned and the emblems emit the antidote which is absorbed through the skin.

The same PIMI friend mentioned above has been getting pretty pushy about "returning" to Jehovah and coming to the memorial as it will be in person and, "We have missed seeing you." I gave what I hope was a noncommittal answer that I might. Then I told him that IF in fact I did I would not be touching the glass or plate as they were passed because I did not know what others may pass on after THEY touched them. He nearly blew a gasket claiming that I would be showing disrespect.

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Am I Expected to Become One of Jehovah’s Witnesses if I Study the Bible With Them?

by Ron.W. in

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FedUpJW

No, you are not obligated in any way. What you decide to do with that knowledge is up to you.

Do you see signs that the student is trying to obey Jesus’ commandments? Most important, does he want to become one of Jehovah’s Witnesses?

From the same WT is the rest of the quote: ". . .continuing to study with him would be like trying to give swimming lessons to someone who does not want to get wet! If the student . . . is not willing to make changes (Get baptized as a JW), why continue studying with him?

So YES, if someone "studies" with the JW's it is most definitely expected, if not demanded that they become a JW themselves.