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  Return door to door

  by Hellothere in

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  2. experiences

  any news about how it's going with the return too door 2 door preaching?

  are the jws excited about it?

  are they facing any opposition to it by householders?

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  It is unlikely that they will be able to convey any sincere love when they meet others that they look down on.

  But they get indoctrination every week with their shadow publisher videos showing them exactly how to FAKE sincerity.
  
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  questions for those who were once elders

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i watched some wendi renay youtube videos.

  the former elder who was being interviewed mentioned a couple of things i noted.

  i would like to know what your reactions were at the time you learned what i am going to relate if you had the same or kindred experience.

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  . . .maintain proper respect for those appointed by holy spirit.

  Do they mean like the example just a few years ago in a study WT of a early twenties aged ministerial servant showing "humility" when he was deleted as a ministerial servant after confessing to the elders that he had the habit of regular viewing of pornography and masturbating since he was 12 years old?

  Where was holy spirit when he was recommended? Where was holy spirit when he lied and said there was nothing in his past or present that would prevent him from accepting appointment?

  Holy spirit my
  
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  Our J.W friends still have issues with beards 2022??Why?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  our witness friend who during covid grew his beard has been hassled by elders who asked him "why" he chose to have facial growth.

  he for real, had to give an answer why.

  this is pharasees total rubbish.

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  Brother Balzereit had grown a beard very similar to the one that had been worn by Brother Russell. There were others who ALLEGEDLY also wanted to look like Brother Russell. This could give rise to a tendency toward creature worship, and Rutherford wanted to prevent this. So during his next visit he told Brother Balzereit that he could buy the rotary press but only on the condition that he shave off his beard and worshipfully copy rutherford's bare faced appearance instead.

  Fixed?
  
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  Upbringing

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was brought up as a born-in(tm) here in the uk.

  it wasn't until i was 50 that the scales fell from my eyes, i woke up, got da'd from the cult and my wife was advised to leave me by the elders whom i had served with on the boe.

  one of which i know wanted to schtupf her.

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  Am I the only one who sees the JW leadership as more and more narcissistic over the years, in terms of a GB that is more out of touch with the needs of ordinary people and families and more grandiose than ever?

  No, I do not believe you are. They are getting more bold about speaking out of both sides of their mouths and being extremely opinionated. Think of Tight Pants Tony spouting off in his arrogant high pitched whiny voice about how if someone doesn't like what he is saying they can, "Take it up with my brother, Jesus!" and sadly the rank and file just slurp up whatever bile spews out of the mouths of the governing body and their helpers.
  
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  Current Meeting Attendees

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does anyone know what publication is being studied at the midweek meetings.

  i used to know but it has flown out of my brain.

  it is treating some of past issues that were once taught by the wts or have seen material that questions it.

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  It is a book called "Enjoy life Forever". I cannot be bothered to go any further into that swamp.
  
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  Breaking news. Masks

  by road to nowhere in

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  2. friends

  updated.

  october 1 no more strongly encouraged.

  just regular now?.

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  Why can't they just say effective immediately.

  Because the "chariot" cannot change direction that fast?
  
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  Latest jw broadcast referring to allegations of protecting pedophiles

  by jonahstourguide in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi folks.. i put this in abuse as i thought it relevant.. a physically in mentally out friend that considers our friendship greater than religion told me that on the latest broadcast steven lett alluded to satans voice being behind people that claim the organisation protects pedophiles.. my friend then went on to say they must be in damage control.. he added, but that is correct, they are hiding their internal records.

  is not that construed as protecting the accused?.

  if i get the inclination i may post a snippet of what was actually said.. sadly my friend is trying to protect his family relationships and so goes along with the charade.. his situation weighs on me but, as many of you here know, it can be a difficult road to travel.. jtg.

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  There is also this new Jade and Nita video.

  Noticed that it is obvious they are "praying" before their meal. Where is the napkin on the head?
  
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  Is This New?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is a very long time since i was an elder and the elders textbooks have changed multiple times since then.

  going back to when i was an elder, to the best of my knowledge the only way a spouse could divorce from his/her partner was porneia, if that person had sexual relations with a man, woman, child, or beast.

  but it had to be proven and that's the dubious 2 witness rule.. in fact, if it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!

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  Seems like "brazen conduct" is a made up, unbiblical disfellowshipping offense that can be a catch-all term when elders don't have two witnesses or a confession.

  As my now deceased father used to say, "ANYONE can be disfellowshipped for ANYTHING that three elders can agree on."

  In the governing bodies deluded minds sex only happens at night and if you spend the entire night at someone’s house.

  And only between a man and woman. Not a word about two women, or two men!
  
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  Is This New?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is a very long time since i was an elder and the elders textbooks have changed multiple times since then.

  going back to when i was an elder, to the best of my knowledge the only way a spouse could divorce from his/her partner was porneia, if that person had sexual relations with a man, woman, child, or beast.

  but it had to be proven and that's the dubious 2 witness rule.. in fact, if it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!

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  If it was not proven and the innocent party divorced and married someone else, then they could be hauled up in front of a judicial committee and be charged with committing adultery and disfellowshipped!

  Even more idiotic was the rule that a friend of mine was subjected to some years ago. His non-JW wife left him and filed for divorce. He was pretty well devastated. Before the divorce was finalized she realized she was better off with him than not and asked to reconcile. He agreed. The elders got wind of it and hauled him in the back room and told him that he MUST let the divorce proceed. They used Ezra 10:10-12 to prove their point . . .Then Ezʹra the priest rose and said to them: “You have acted unfaithfully by marrying foreign women, and so you have added to the guilt of Israel. 11 Now make confession to Jehovah the God of your forefathers and do his will. Separate yourselves from the peoples of the land and from these foreign wives.” 12 To this the whole congregation answered with a loud voice: “It is our duty to do exactly as you say." When he questioned their instructions they used Ezra 10:8 . . .and according to the decision of the princes and the elders, anyone who did not come within three days’ time would have all his goods confiscated, and he would be banished from the congregation."
  

  No room for any kind of kindness or forgiveness there! A helluva lot of cherry-picking from the Bible. And now twenty years later he still carries a torch for her, and she is still single. One just has to appreciate how much the JW's cherish family! NOT!
  
  
  
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  refusing to go in service with someone

  by enoughisenough in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  did you ever refuse to go in service with someone?

  i did.... i went to the kh to meet for service and 3 brothers were there.

  i told the brother taking the lead, that when he made up the car groups to take note i had a plan of my own -the 3 brothers could go together and i would do my own thing.

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  I told the brother taking the lead that I had a plan of my own and I would do my own thing.

  That is exactly what I did for the last several months of field circus before I just up and obviously quit. And Every. Single. Time. he would try to shoe-horn me into a group and then try to shame me into "following directions" when I refused. It's nice to be off that useless tread-mill!