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  If God’s people can’t see anti-God verses in the Bible

  by Ireneus in

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  if god’s people can’t see anti-god verses in the bible, how can they be god’s people?.

  jehovah is the “god of the gentiles also” and “there is no impartiality with god,” says the bible.

  (romans 3:29; deuteronomy 10:17).

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  Hi myelaine

  I meant the first meaning of the word property [“a thing or things belonging to someone”]. It is the same word my mom’s attorney used in the Court during the hearing of her divorce case saying my dad was treating her as his property, as an object to give him a sensual treat whenever he wanted, not as an individual to be cherished. Judge understood what her attorney meant when he used the word “property.” And she got divorce from my dad, and she has never bothered even to think about him which shows how much she hates someone who used her as his property.

  I have also heard some girls using the same word in our college campus to keep away certain selfish boys from them.

  Back to your question: “Since love God and love your neighbour as yourself is a distillation of the law, how can obeying that law be a sin against humanity?”

  In exalting one nation over others (Deuteronomy 28:1, 10, 13) and even authorizing them to own Gentile people as their slaves "for ever" (Leviticus 25:44-46.), and also in Woman being spoken as the property of men in (1 Corinthians 14:34-35), there is no love of the neighbor—it betrays total disregard for them (which is opposite of love). And also it undermines the primary truth that we are all humans first, children of God. Ultimately, whether we gave a humane treatment to other human beings or not—this is what counts. (Mathew 25:32-46)
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  If God’s people can’t see anti-God verses in the Bible

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if god’s people can’t see anti-god verses in the bible, how can they be god’s people?.

  jehovah is the “god of the gentiles also” and “there is no impartiality with god,” says the bible.

  (romans 3:29; deuteronomy 10:17).

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  Moses himself chose a Medianite woman Zipporah (daughter of a pagan priest) and now praising Phinehaz for performing a double murder of a Jew and Medianite woman he chose. This shows Moses had no clarity on any subject which explains all the contradictions and confusions in first 5 books of the Bible. He also knew the potential of woman from his own wife Zipporah. She stayed true to her role as a woman who acted bravely and decisively, not one who is acted upon. She even showed better insight into spiritual matters and averted a disaster by acting promptly (by performing the act of circumcision on their son) thus saving Moses from being killed by Jehovah’s angel which ultimately helped the Israelites’ exodus from Egypt. Yet Moses left her behind before the exodus. This shows Moses formulating the Law in such a way that women are treated as property of men was a deliberate sin (against humanity?). Such religious leaders are the curse of humanity.
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  Would you?

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  would you join a religion which punishes you if you later on change your mind and choose to leave it?.

  would you join a religion which claims to be the only one guided by god and yet has always got their prophetic utterances entirely wrong?.

  would you join a religion which changes its beliefs every few years?.

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  Ireneus

  This truth sets us free.

  Interesting questions
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  If God’s people can’t see anti-God verses in the Bible

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if god’s people can’t see anti-god verses in the bible, how can they be god’s people?.

  jehovah is the “god of the gentiles also” and “there is no impartiality with god,” says the bible.

  (romans 3:29; deuteronomy 10:17).

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  Humbled,

  Interesting observation: “Religion is law. It kills one way or another. So we have to leave religion to live well. That’s what l decided.”

  God started human family on earth. As Father being the head of the family, no one felt the need to worship their Father. Later distortion started--some felt the need of introducing the subject of worship with a higher class of people taking lead over the lower class—thus exploiting the lower for the livelihood of the higher class. Exploitation in the name of God resulted in some abandoning faith in God. So you are right—religion kills the faithful.
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  If God’s people can’t see anti-God verses in the Bible

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if god’s people can’t see anti-god verses in the bible, how can they be god’s people?.

  jehovah is the “god of the gentiles also” and “there is no impartiality with god,” says the bible.

  (romans 3:29; deuteronomy 10:17).

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  If God’s people can’t see anti-God verses in the Bible, how can they be God’s people?

  Jehovah is the “God of the Gentiles also” and “there is no impartiality with God,” says the Bible. (Romans 3:29; Deuteronomy 10:17). People are judged on the basis of how humane they were, not on the basis of worship (Mathew 25:31-46) because of the simple truth that everyone is a child of God. This would mean many are anti-God verses in the Bible. To mention a few:

  1) Phinehas who performed a double murder when a Jew married a Gentile is praised by Moses. (Numbers 25:6-13)

  2) Moses is shown as exalting one nation over others (Deuteronomy 28:1, 10, 13) and even authorizing them to own Gentile people as their slaves "for ever" (Leviticus 25:44-46.)

  3) Woman is spoken as the property of men in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35:

  “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.” (Matthew 5:17-18)

  According to Jesus, Jewish laws that include laws about woman such as the above should remain until "heaven and earth pass".

  People who claim to be God’s own would shudder at such anti-God verses found in the Bible. Yet JWs have no problem in treating each verse of the Bible as inspired of God.
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  A thinking man coming to grips with the Bible

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  2. beliefs

  no ego and no agenda--and yet--a thinking-out-loud tour of what the lasting value ofbiblical teaching might mean.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wwbgo6a2w.

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  His explanation, on the basis of Jung's studies, about dreams makes sense. I too came to believe in soul and God because of the wonderful mechanism, called dream, within me which happens without my conscious mind being involved.

  Interestingly, our actions are intertwined by conscious and sub-conscious mind activities, and it is like we learn driving--we consciously do it while learning driving then we switch to unconsciously driving later. Just like unconscious mind creates motion pictures called dream, it also created my body which is a micro universe--just like the Supreme Soul created the macro universe.

  That means through the mechanism called dream, God has provided proof very intimately, in very personalized way, to every human being that there is proof for immortal soul and immortal Supreme Soul, if anyone wants proof.

  Good video
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  God and even nature are against all practices of mind control

  by Ireneus in

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  2. bible

  most of the people with skin problems have something in common.

  they feel their individuality is being threatened somehow and others have power over them as though they are feeling thin-skinned or things as tending to get under their skin.

  it is under the skin that our nerves function, and skin is the largest sense-organ which is like a blanket over the whole body, hence is a symbol of protection.

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  Thank you Ruby456,

  Bible speaks about God’s “tender mercies”—an expression I liked very much for which we find proof in the abundant provisions for enjoyment of life. However, such characteristics of God are clouded under the abundance of human inspired verses in the Bible. People who had to replace their damaged organs/limbs with some artificial organs/things in their bodies would remember how nice and at easy they felt when they were with their original organs--as though they were all originally designed with so much care and tender affection.
  
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  Yoga Sutras Of Pantanjali (1600 Years Ago)

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  i know a lot of people might not want anything to do with any religion and i can sympathize, the bible an ancient collection of books compiled by the catholic church authorities and the some what restricted version by protestant movement we have the less voluminous of collected "holy" books call the king james.

  which i think we have a lot to learn from them if we look at them from a more psychological point of view and not force them to be literally understood.. i think it is the same with these sutras, what is it telling us about the mind?

  what can we expect from certain meditative practices.

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  The wise have always understood the wisdom of looking beyond thoughts which are just chattering of the internal mouth called mind. (Luke 17:21) “The beginning of freedom is the realization that you are not the thinker.The moment you start watching the thinker, a higher level of consciousness becomes activated. You then begin to realize that there is a vast realm of intelligence beyond thought, that thought is only a tiny aspect of that intelligence. You also realize that all the things that truly matter – beauty, love, creativity, joy, inner peace – arise from beyond the mind. You begin to awaken.”-- Eckhart Tolle

  JWs would never understand this. For them emptying the mind means inviting demons--demons who were originally presented as personification of vices for the sake simplicity and clarity, hence never exist as person.
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  Banned words in the organization

  by Addison0998 in

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  i was talking to my sister in law the other day about death, and i mentioned something about the afterlife, i don’t remember what i said but it was nothing shocking .

  but she squealed, “we don’t believe in the afterlife!

  !” and i reasoned, well we kinda do...life after death is the after life..and she just insisted no no it’s not the same thing.

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  It is about such practices Jesus said: "You blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel!"--Mathew 23:24
  
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  144000 The numbers don't add up

  by LevelThePlayingField in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in 1935 there were 63,146 who attended the memorial and 52,465 partook.

  (proclaimers book page 717).

  according to the bible teach book on page 78, it says, “since the days of the apostles, god has been selecting faithful christians in order to complete the number 144,000”.

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  Very solid point!