just wondering how it is that ordinary folk tend not think of jw's as a cult like, say, the moonies.
consider what it is that makes ex's so virulently opposed to the watchtower society that joe public doesn't even know about.
i'm talking about disfellowshipping and disassociation here, the way in which families are split, loved one's abandoned and friends made into enemies.
The blood issue as a red herring!! What in interesting theory.
Neon said:
The blood doctrine was around even before disfellowshipping and shunning, the former having started in 1945, and the latter in 1952I wasn't aware of this. Did they have any other means of discipline prior to these dates?
what's so good about it?
99.9% of earth's population will be wiped off the planet.
humm...(rubs chin with fingers) last time i checked, having over six billion men, women and children destroyed isn't so good.
I guess anythings possible. i once saw pigs fly... but that was at a Pink Floyd concert.
... in web traffic at least .
our current ranking: 26,434. their ranking: 26,911 .
what's interesting is that if you view the figures for both, the wts site gets a lot of visits from people (big name) who then view very few pages.
Congrats Simon!!!
I think that the WTS is beating themselves, wer're just reaping the benefits!!! Now if you could knock some sense ito my family...
what's so good about it?
99.9% of earth's population will be wiped off the planet.
humm...(rubs chin with fingers) last time i checked, having over six billion men, women and children destroyed isn't so good.
This whole 'good news' things makes a farce of the covenant god made with Noah. Supposedly the rainbow is the sign of this covenant the 'he' will not destroy the world again with a global deluge. No, he's come up with a better way to destroy the world. He's like the little boy who tells his mother he won't slap his brother again, then turns around and punches him. What a kind loving father this Jehovah is!!
a certain jw doesn't believe in the 1914 doctrine any longer.
this, of course, naturally gives rise to certain serious problems.
for example, how can this person now continue to participate in field service activities and make use of the publications produced by the wts?
What example would that be... getting nailed to a cross?? No thanks
Boy was I having a bad day yesterday. What I should have said was this:
As far as the WTS following Jesus' example, I see very little of that. Jesus main example was to minister to the poor and the needy. The only help I see the WTS providing to the poorer members of society is the so-called spiritual food. I'm sorry but these people can't eat bibles and awakes.
It's a main tenet of many christian churches to provide food and shelter to the needy. I see the WTS and it's GB to be a bunch of tight fisted misers who are using their free labour pool to deliver their publications; all in an effort to accumulate as much real estate as they can. How is this following Jesus' example, I'm not aware of his ever purchasing real estate? BTW Mouthy, i always picture Jesus with a beard too.
a certain jw doesn't believe in the 1914 doctrine any longer.
this, of course, naturally gives rise to certain serious problems.
for example, how can this person now continue to participate in field service activities and make use of the publications produced by the wts?
What example would that be... getting nailed to a cross?? No thanks.
are there certain things that you just know will get some people riled, rattled or unnerved?
on this board, i think if i wanted to tease, let's say, simon, i could suggest that he thinks he's an elder and that's why he's such a control-freak.
Minimus,
I used to get pissed off when I first left the organization. I'd go to gatherings at my Mom's house and there would always be someone there who'd want to corner me. The problem was, they'd all spout basically the same line of shit. The line they all thought would be most effective was "Well if you're not for Jehovah, you're for Satan". After hearing this for the thousandth time I just looked the sanctimonious prick in the face and said "how did you Know?" I then went into a two minute spiel on how we sacrificed goats at midnight and had orgies rolling in the sacrificial blood. He never brought up the subject again.
I finally told my Mom that if she didn't tell her friends to stop pestering me, I might not be able to control what might come out of my mouth. After a few other verbal explosions, that left my Mom embarassed and quieted her friends; I've been left alone. I've been able to visit with my family for the last 20 years with hardly ever any reference to Jehovah.
hi there fellow students .... a quick question for you all.
do you know whether in the temple arrangement, the anointing oil used contained flower heads from the cannabis plant?
there appears to be evidence that suggests that the word kineboisin refers to the plant.
Marihuana is no more dangerous than alcohol.
Actually Faraon, It's far less harmful that alcohol. i've never seen anybody lose their mind smoking weed the way they do drinking whiskey.
I used to use Cannabis myself up until fairly recently and stopped for respect of my God given body and also for the reason that I didn't want to deal with the anti-social types I was buying from
Better solution, El Blanko; grow your own and you don't gotta deal with the riff-raff. As far as Cannabis being harmful to one's body, I'm not aware of any studies proving this (and if I was I wouldn't give a rats-ass anyway). If you're worried about the smoke being carcinogenic, try eating it. The only harm I've ever expeinced from weed is to wake up and find all my cupboards and refrigerator empty.
very bizarre, I don't act like I'm a prophet when stoned, just like a friggin hippy
STL, try buying better smoke or mixing it with hash or opium, the results can be amazing.
what really impresses me and what i enjoy most about this board is the common bond or foundation we all have.
yet when you look at the avatars or read the profiles you find that we are all so different.
different races, geographical location, and personalties.
I can relate. I've been away from the Org for over 25 years. It took me years to get over some of my screwed up ideas, partly because most of my family are still jws. I've still not worked up the courage to actually tell my story here on the board, but I'm thinking about doing it soon.
i am writing this thread to let you know what your moderators here are like and what they do.
i am a friend of gentlesoul.
i am also a jehovahs witness who is coming out.
Well I was going to leave the society but now I am not sure as the hate I see towards those who choose to believe in God are trodden on like trash and I know that in my Congregation at least there is a sense of kindness and peace. I hope you all feel good with yourselves and oh don't let this get to your conscience as I don't think many of you even have.
What a cop-out. Your staying in the organization is others fault. This is a discussion board, all sides are discussed. People not willing to take criticism or enter into discussions on opposing views are better off at the Kingdumb Hall. Have a good Life.
