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“Do not gaze about!”
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. bible
so many changes in the 2013 nwt seem needless and spoil familiar phrases.

take isaiah 41:10 in the nwt classic rendering:.

do not be afraid, for i am with you.
FFGhost

It would be one thing if anyone on the RNWT committee had any training in Biblical or Greek, or hell, any real (from a university) training in translation in general, and could justify their rewording.
But the RNWT is, as best as I can piece together, a bunch of guys reviewing Fred Franz's 75-80 year old notes from the original NWT, and then brainstorming what "sounds better" in modern English, with a preference toward phrasing that is "easy to translate".
So you end up with a translation based on notes from an older translation based on one guy's (maybe two guys if Gangas was involved) intermediate understanding of Biblical languages.
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What is the JW view on the vaccine rollout?
by MebyonKernow in
1. jw
2. friends
out of morbid curiosity...what is the jehovah's witnesses current view about the vaccine rollout?is the watchtower society advocating the position to take the covid vaccine?

is it a personal 'conscience' matter?

how many jws are refusing the vaccine does anyone know?
FFGhost

They have sent out letters to be read to the congregations stating that the vaccines do not contain "blood fractions", and that deciding to take or not take the vaccine is up to each JW.
That's the "official" position. Individual JWs are as loony / unloony as any other individuals - some are quite vocal about their position as anti-vaxxers, others are pro-vaccine, etc.
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“Do not gaze about!”
by slimboyfat in
1. watchtower
2. bible
so many changes in the 2013 nwt seem needless and spoil familiar phrases.

take isaiah 41:10 in the nwt classic rendering:.

do not be afraid, for i am with you.
FFGhost

The most egregious tampering, IMHO, was Micah 6:8.
Original NWT:
He has told you, O earthling man, what is good. And what is Jehovah asking back from you but to exercise justice and to love kindness and to be modest in walking with your God?
Revised NWT:
He has told you, O man, what is good.
And what is Jehovah requiring of you?
Only to exercise justice, to cherish loyalty,
And to walk in modesty with your God!
Just absolutely butchered. What a beautiful thought, to "love kindness". And now it is rendered as "cherish loyalty" which as you can imagine, they have already used repeatedly to underline their core message of "OBEY US or die".
Even the exclamation point at the end irks me. "I'm sure the original Hebrew writer would have put an exclamation point in there, if he would have been writing a thousand years in the future when they actually, you know, existed."
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The Bible speaks of the "Unforgivable Sin" ? What is it ?
by smiddy3 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
do any jehovah`s witnesses or ex jehovah`s witnesses even know what that sin is ?.

why is such a statement in the bible if its not identified what that sin is ?.

were the authors of the book just playing with peoples heads ?
FFGhost

the "Unforgivable Sin" ? What is it ?
If you were to ask Tony Morris, he'd probably say it was finishing off the last of the McCallan without offering to buy him some more.
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Watch out, here comes the Governing Body!
by neat blue dog in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
a picture in this week's wt shows the annointed after being raised to heaven, when they start "smashing the nations".

creepy!!

i imagine am3 is out front, it seems like something he's eager for.
FFGhost

Whenever Morris talks about his hoped-future future wherein he gets to smash and kill as a heavenly being, there is a gleam in his eye and a lilt to his voice that is really disturbing. He clearly anticipates with glee the opportunity to kill his perceived enemies.
What's also disturbing is that he served as a medic in the Vietnam war. He has seen first-hand the effects of warfare on human bodies, and rather than being horrified he seems to relish the idea of being able to inflict such carnage himself.
I believe the medical term for someone like that is "one sick f*ck".
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Looking For WT Quote
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. bible
does anyone have 1945 wt 8/15/45 p. 253i'm looking for confirmation of where the wt reportedly states that jehovah is only jw's "prospective" father.

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FFGhost

No argument there.
Most JWs would be in agreement that they are not spirit-begotten sons of God. They have no problem with that.
If I weren't so lazy, I'd look up more modern quotes regarding how, after the 1000 year fruit-fest, even non-spirit-begotten earthly people would be "adopted" into God's family. But, of course, that is supposed to be 1000+ year into the future.
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Teachings "Unique to JW's" They Hide From You Before Baptism
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
jehovah can't be your father in this life.

'they [jw members] address him prospectively as "our father.

jesus is not your mediator:.
FFGhost

It’s not something that JW’s will tell you straightforwardly. Most don’t even know.
Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner.
Most JWs don't know, and even fewer care.
Doctrine doesn't matter to well over 90% of JWs.
All that matters is, if I "listen and obey", I'll be "blessed" with a new world mansion, a pet panda, and I'll get to see dear dead grandma again.
Oh! And fruit. Lots & lots of fruit. Piled high on picnic tables. Grapes the size of apples! Apples the size of watermelons! Watermelons the size of....really big watermelons!
Hope you like fruit.
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Looking For WT Quote
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. bible
does anyone have 1945 wt 8/15/45 p. 253i'm looking for confirmation of where the wt reportedly states that jehovah is only jw's "prospective" father.

.
FFGhost

Even if you find someone who has a copy of that 75 year old magazine, if you were to use it to try to convince a JW that it was some sort of "hidden teachings", the JW would just roll his eyes and tell you you were using "old light".
Here is a quote from a 2020 Watchtower article that the good, obedient JW would point you to:
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2020281#h=1:0-28:379
We can rightly call Jehovah “Father”—he is the Source of our life.
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Teachings "Unique to JW's" They Hide From You Before Baptism
by Sea Breeze in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
jehovah can't be your father in this life.

'they [jw members] address him prospectively as "our father.

jesus is not your mediator:.
FFGhost

It is not normal for people to flat out lie to your face
You must not have very much experience in politics.
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What is your most favorite politically incorrect film
by mickbobcat in
1. social
2. entertainment
since all the leftist idiots are trying to cancel films they don't like i am buying some dvds of my fav.

pi films.

my favorite top pick is animal house.
FFGhost

"Blazing Saddles" would never ever get made today.