Posts by FFGhost

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Next time a jw says "the end is sooo close now"

by nowwhat? in

say this.

with what's going on the world does it look like they are going to proclaim peace and security anytime soon?!

or was the organization wrong again about the end times?.

FFGhost

My standing offer for any and all JWs who say “the end is sooooo close now”:

(This only works for JWs with at least a little wealth, not so much for JWs on the dole or forced to live with 5 roommates due to poverty)

I’ll sign an agreement with you, with these terms:

— I give you $20,000 cash right now

— You sign a contract giving me 100% of all your assets 5 years from now. You can continue to use those assets (house, car, cash, etc.) for the next 4 years and 364 days, but at year 5, it is all legally and fully mine

What do you, Brother The-End-Is-Imminent, have to lose? You get an extra free $20,000 right now. Surely Armageddon will come before the 5 years are up, so I’ll never collect, and you won’t lose the car, house, etc. then, right? There’s no way you can lose with a deal like that, right?

Any takers?

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Latest jw broadcast referring to allegations of protecting pedophiles

by jonahstourguide in

hi folks.. i put this in abuse as i thought it relevant.. a physically in mentally out friend that considers our friendship greater than religion told me that on the latest broadcast steven lett alluded to satans voice being behind people that claim the organisation protects pedophiles.. my friend then went on to say they must be in damage control.. he added, but that is correct, they are hiding their internal records.

is not that construed as protecting the accused?.

if i get the inclination i may post a snippet of what was actually said.. sadly my friend is trying to protect his family relationships and so goes along with the charade.. his situation weighs on me but, as many of you here know, it can be a difficult road to travel.. jtg.

FFGhost

There’s clips of the broadcast all over the ex-JW Reddit.

Wow, ol’ M. Stephen sounds pi$$ed.

There’s an unmistakable sense of desperation in the shrillness of the message.

And there is also the “Streisand effect”. Loyal JWs are never going to listen to “apostates” anyway, so it’s pointless to hysterically shout warnings about doing so to them. But for the hundreds of thousands of JWs less inclined to be so mindlessly servile, and who perhaps have never been exposed to “pedophilia protection” reports, this may very well prompt at least some to think “why is he so hepped up? What are people really saying?”

Clearly these reports of covering up for child molesters are having an effect on the JW population, and the GB know it is having an effect.

I also found it striking how another “apostate lie” is that the GB are “exploiting” JWs. That of course is a frequent topic on this site and elsewhere, particularly related to the trend of the past few decades of dismissing middle aged Bethelites when their risk of incurring large medical bills outweighs their usefulness to the organization. This lends credence to the idea that I’ve long had, that the GB are paying some outside consultant to read these forums to figure out what oeople are saying.

in which case:

Hey Mr. (or Ms.) GB-hired consultant! Can you pass on a message? Tell Splane he’s still smarmy and knows next to nothing about music, and tell Lett his shrillness is not becoming a minister of Christ. Oh, and pass on to Morris, I recommend the McCallan 1949, cask 136. It might take some effort to find but it’s worth it.

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Meeting attendance

by Benavidez in

i was wondering what your guys' meeting attendance was like.

our meetings here is like 50/50 with zoom and in person.

the spanish has it a little "better" with it being like 30% zoom attendance with most attending in person.. i've heard of congregations in other states having attendance where most (even elders and ms) attend meeting only via zoom and even have their cameras off.

FFGhost

Was about 40% at KH / 60% zoom until the edict from on high.

Since then, it’s just about flipped - 60% at the KH, 40% on zoom.

Expect harsher and more frequent “loving reminders” as time goes on the zoom attendance starts drifting north of 50% again, particularly in the winter months.

Of course, they’ll have to intersperse those messages with equally harsh “let us tell you what your problem is” loving reminders when it becomes apparent that JWs are not heeding the other recent commandment to go back to door to door preaching.

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So who knows/knew William Malenfant?

by L3G in

jw
friends

since a previous thread is getting comments that this guy may become a new gb member, the topic above is worth pursuing.

here's what i found out by searching so far---in other words, not much.

surely others must know something about the guy.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/198944/1/william-malenfant-learn-from-me-mp3-trinidad-2010-zone-talk.

FFGhost

i wonder if Ralph Walls or William Turner are being groomed for replacing Sam Heard. We certainly see a lot them both of recent.

Lol.

You mean we’ll need a new “Brother Token”?

Didn’t they recently bring over a UK branch bigwig, who recently started partaking? Gillies I think it is. Seems they’ll need a new “Brother Token European” to replace the visibly and steadily declining Losch.

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Pursue Peace Assembly 2022 .. Joseph shares stories about his Bible days

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

pursue peace assembly 2022 shows a resurrected, newly shaven joseph, the son of jacob and rachel, having a nice dinner at a beautiful restaurant in the new system.

the survivors of armageddon all want to know if joseph can share stories about his life.. ''can you tell us what egypt was like?

what was pharaoh like?''.

FFGhost

Stuff like this always drives me nuts.

Let’s just think about this for more than 20 milliseconds.

The resurrected Joseph is eating dinner with a dozen or so JWs in the “1000 year reign”.

Everybody is going to want to have “dinner with Joseph”, right? As well as “dinner with Moses”, “dinner with Noah”, etc. But let’s just stick with Joseph for now.

Everybody wants to have dinner with the guy, right? How many is “everybody”?

In the Insight book, it speculates that there could be 20 billion (20,000,000,000) people resurrected to the earth.

For simplicity’s sake, let’s leave the logistics of where they all fit for the moment.

So, we have 20 billion people who want to have “dinner with Joseph”. Let’s say they all meet like this group, a dozen at a time.

And let’s say Joseph has dinner at a different house every night.

So how long does it take to dine with 20 billion people, a dozen at a time, once a night with no breaks?

By my calculations, over 4.5 million years.

4.5 million years, day after day after day….after day after day, dinner with a new set of people. And every time, the exact same questions: “So what was Egypt like? What was Pharaoh like? What was Potiphar like?”.

4.5 million years. Every day.

I know he’ll be “perfect” and all, but still….I think even the most perfect man would be driven to suicide after year 30,000 or so.

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2022-08-09-Announcement!

by Atlantis in

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friends

2022-08-09-announcement.. click image to enlarge.. .

https://postimg.cc/th27pzyh.

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FFGhost

“No one should feel pressured to participate in any specific method of preaching”

What a heaping, steaming pile of codswallop.

More accurately, “no one should feel pressured, until 4 months from now when the inevitable letter is sent in which we scold you and tell you how ungrateful, unspiritual, and just plain inferior you all are for not jumping for joy and performing as we have commanded from on high”.

In the very same letter, just 4 paragraphs later, is direction for a “local needs” part in 2 weeks to pound, pound, POUND into the minds of everyone how ungrateful, unspiritual, and just plain inferior they are for not attending meetings in person. THE VERY SAME LETTER.

Whatever happened to the point from the March 12 announcement, “Personal choices regarding vaccination and whether to attend in person should be respected”?

Gad, what a bunch of wankers.

I’ll bet every asset I own that no later than January there will be an urgent “what is wrong with you people? Get out in the door to door work right now, you miserable worms” announcement to be read 2 or 4 or 8 times after meetings, followed by “local needs” presenting the same information as if the issue is reading comprehension rather than lack of interest in doing the pointless door to door work.

Mark this post. Circle it in red and tape it to your wall. No later than January - “Why aren’t you miserable worms doing what we told you?”

Morons.

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Woke Up Feeling Poetic, so an ExJW Poem

by Simon in

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friends

come here you heavy hearted who departed from the truth your youth and family trapped you in.. no need to fear that armageddons near and you will be forgotten as a rotten failure to your kin.. the freedom that you took is nothing that a crusty book can ever realistically replace.. so stand up tall, tell all who need to hear that it is them who fear to look you in the face..

FFGhost

Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz would be proud!

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Online Lesson: Why does suffering and evil exist?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

bible teachings.

online lessons.

basic bible teachings.

FFGhost

The compact reason, for those with short attention spans:

Because 6000 years ago, a talking snake convinced a naked lady to eat a piece of fruit.

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Resuming door to door September 1st

by Mikejw in

gb worried about not enough coming to in person meetings.

what are they going to be like when they realise not only jdubs don’t want to go to in person meetings but they really don’t want to go back on the min.

zoom has so much more appeal for rather than meetings or door to door.

FFGhost

I know “car groups” aren’t a “thing” in many parts of the world, but it’s a central part of “door to door work” in North America.

Can you imagine the “fun” of (depending on the size of the vehicle) 4,5,6 or even 7 JWs crammed into a small enclosed unventilated space (interior of a vehicle) for hours at a time?

If anyone has anything remotely contagious, it’ll be like riding in an incubation tube.

JWs are still expected to wear masks at the Kingdom Hall. Are they going to wear them in their “car groups” too?

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2022-07-29-Announcement!

by Atlantis in

jw
friends

2022-07-29-announcements--english.

2022-07-29-announcements-spanishpage 2, par.

3. on the other hand, some brothers and sisters—younger and in good health—have more favorable circumstances that may allow them to attend christian meetings regularly at the kingdom hall.

FFGhost

Just a brief update:

Last night was the first meeting since the royal decree from the gb about “thou shalt attend at the Kingdom Hall unless you are a quadruple amputee with active tuberculosis”.

You’ll be happy to know the announcement made absolutely zero difference. In-person attendance was still about 40% of the total congregation, actually would have been even lower if not for a few visitors.

Added bonus: the announcement was read again, but the meeting was running late so it was read in a rushed bland monotone, giving it all the weight it deserves - virtually none.

The CO decreed that it be read yet again, a 3rd time, after Sunday’s WT, because “there is a real need in the circuit”.

Looking forward to the complete lack of desired response.

Hey maybe they should just read it before and after every meeting for the next 3 months?