Posts by ThomasMore

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Is there really any universal issue of Sovereignty?

by Linda14 in

i can agree that satan doesn't see god as a good ruler as stated at gen 3:1-5. he doesn't seem to see gods laws as right or good.

but whether there is an understanding/agreement between god and satan afterward to the effect that he can take the mantle of rulership to show whether his style is best is doubtful.

that conclusion is probably reached because god hasn't destroyed satan, and he is also called the ruler of the world in the bible.

ThomasMore

WTC has always preferred a simple litmus test for their adherents - as Ding expressed. Anything that could lead into a gray area of what is right or wrong is quickly squelched. For example, they don't want to talk about how their disbelief in an immortal soul or an inexhaustible life force conflicts with the resurrection of the real person (this is only one example). They demand simple equations to sift their followers, otherwise chaos could break out.

Universal Sovereignty is the perfect Black v White issue. Give the wrong answer and you are OUT!

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deep thoughts

by lancelink in

this afternoon i drove by an old hall i attended ( barrington illinois) and noticed that it had been sold, it is now an adventist .

church !

now here is my drive-home thinking.. back in the 80's when i attended i was newly married, and had a young child.

ThomasMore

WTC had no problem buying or selling to Babylon the Great. That should tell you something. That is why they joined the UN - to get cozy with other organized religions who could provide ideas about organization and profitability.

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How to debunk the 1914 calculus ONLY using JW publications?

by psyco in

i remember having read somewhere, but i cannot find it anymore, that it is possible to debunk the 1914 calculus using only jw publications, like "insight on the scriptures" (chronologies) for example.. do you have any sources about that to suggest to me?.

thanks..

ThomasMore

I used to present lots of facts from articles and scriptures, but now my approach is different.

I open a calendar and ask when the person was born. Then I say, Oh that's not even on this calendar. Do you remember when Charles Taze Russel went to visit Jerusalem? They almost always say no.

Then I say - "Neither does anyone else because they are all dead for many decades."

It never sways anyone but I do it anyway.

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Every JW Elder In State Of Pennsylvania Subpoenaed

by JW GoneBad in

breaking news!

every jehovah’s witness elder in the 67 counties of pennsylvania are being given notice by state attorney's office to turn over any & all documents relating to child sex abuse cases!

watch attached video beginning at time-stamp 101:00...pay particular attention to what is said after 103:00.this is wild!.

ThomasMore

Gonebad, you really went good on those! I liked them all and was unable to decide which one was the best.

How about:

"NOTHING TO SEE HERE!

WATCHTOWER LEAPS INTO BED WITH THE VATICAN TO DISCREDIT VICTIMS OF CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE. THE A-TEAM IS BACK!"

OR...

"PENNSYLVANIA ATTORNEY GENERAL SAYS ENOUGH!!!!! THOUSANDS OF PENNSYLVANIA JW ELDERS UNABLE TO COVER UP THEIR OWN DEPOSITIONS FOR HIDING CHILD SEX ABUSE"

Still, I don't think mine have the fresh, hard-hitting spontaneity that yours have. Oh well, I give up.

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DISSOCIATION - Based on Covid 19

by gavindlt in

jw
friends

dear friends,.

i think you all know me as a person who has always strived, despite my imperfections to only ever wanting to be and remain in the “truth”.

it is in fact what i so desperately want for my son ashton and my baby girl honey bee, to be lovers of truth and grow up to be a loyal servants of jehovah god and his son, jesus christ.

ThomasMore

Well Gavindt,

It is a doozy of a DA letter. You made excellent points but of course no one at "Headquarters" will ever take the time to read it.

Besides, I suspect they are too busy wringing their hands over the PA CSA, the Japan blood transfusion issue, decreasing donations, pending depositions for the GB, the Tony Morris "whatever it was debacle", the failed attempt to launch Ramapo and how to re-appropriate the donations they received, what to do with Patterson, whaere to house all the elderly, and more......

Enjoy the freedom to worship without a whip cracking over your head!

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A question about pedophilia

by joao in

i've been absent for a while, because i've been focusing more in helping portuguese readers know the truth about jw.

we're trying to form an association in portugal to help people abused by religious and non-religious organisations.

i've also been trying to get a little away of these issues because my life has been really complicated since i slammed the door on jw's face!.

ThomasMore

That certainly appears to be likely in PA, and I hope it proves to be the case. However, it takes real fortitude to see these things through to the end, and most DA's don't have the political capital. It is time-consuming and expensive as well so sometimes the money just runs out.

If they have the databases that WTC protected for so long, then it will be a game changer.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

ThomasMore

Eden - there have been others over the years who resisted change. After Ted Jaracz passed away, changes that some clamored for finally became possible. As a Body, the GB does not always work together in unison.

Now the announcement has been removed. Ideas as to why? Is Anthony still a brother?

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Anthony Morris no longer a GB member

by joe134cd in

just wanting confirmation on this.

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ThomasMore

As I recall, Franz was given about $10K to help him transition but I also remember that he rejected a stipend because he did not want to sign the WTC NDA. That is probably why they kept pursuing him - they sensed that he would write a book - which he did after he was DF'd.

FYI - the announcement has been removed from WT.org.

Is Morris no longer a brother? OR was it only there temporarily? It was briefly removed to correct a punctuation error but now removed again. Any insights?

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

ThomasMore

Wozza - OMG!!!! Was that cong in Moscow? That is just awful!

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

ThomasMore

Diogenesister - Bottlegate was a little strange but I thought he was buying gifts frankly. The flasher overcoat he wore made him look like a perv but I have never thought he was anything more than a mean-spirited person.

Was he a heavy drinker - of course!! So were all the GB I ever knew - I didn’t know any teetotalers.

I think most everyone is glad he is off the GB, but it doesn’t make the GB any nobler now that he is gone. They are still shielding over 20k pedos, still taking the money of the members and giving nothing in return, still breaking up families, still flip flopping on teachings so that few JWs even know what the teaching de jour is - and more nonsense than I care to type with my thumbs.

Tony’s departure means very little as far as WTC credibility is concerned. They are still false religion - and I am still free and happy!