VioletAnai,
How can you believe the WT to be the truth and not trust the people as you say?
If you do not trust the people, why would you think they are being honest and tell you the truth
Scorpion
perhaps it is that when so many of us have been subjected to horrific mind manipulation methods, we become dumbed down to the seriousness of the issues at hand.. ----------------------------.
when a 'church' teaches, no, in fact instills so much about satan and all his crafty ways and methods, including quite terrifying teachings of matters pertaining to demons, what happens to the innocent victims of that kind of abuse?
how do, these innocent victims grow up, what effect does this have on their personal development and natural balance?.
VioletAnai,
How can you believe the WT to be the truth and not trust the people as you say?
If you do not trust the people, why would you think they are being honest and tell you the truth
Scorpion
nevada commission ruled about half an hour ago not to give tyson his license.. dang, i was really looking foward to watching that fight.. oh, well maybe in another state..or country.. mav.-
What license was that, dog license?
I am sure the fight will go on at another place. Hopefully they will knock each other out. I don't care for either fighter.
Scorpion
my local library has the studies in the scriptures by russell.
here are a few quotes for vol.
2, 1906 edition.. 1872. six thousand years from the creation of adam were complete in a.d. 1872, and hence that since a.d. 1872, we chronologically entered upon the seventh thousand or the millenium.".
Compton,
If its fresh air you are looking for, I would suggest a hike in the mountains.
Scorpion
i've been reading all the posts here and other websites, and i have been trying to figure out why the society/elders want control of people's lives.
they don't ask for contributions at the kingdom hall, and as a general rule, jw's aren't wealthy people, so what do you all think is the motivating factor behind the control issue?
Hello Mollie,
I would not lump all elders in to the mold of wanting to control peoples lives. I knew a few elders that were caring individuals that IMO were doing what they thought was the right thing to serve God and control was not the issue with them.
With other elders I knew, control seemed very much to be an issue. I think with two of them in particular, insecurity within themselves lead to there wanting control over others. Also, lack of humility with elders wanting control over others seemed to be another case. They were not only overbearing with many in the congregation at times but wanted absolute control over their families. In several instances the children, not all, rebeled and turned to outside influences.
My younger brother put it this way back in 1989 when I exited the WT:
"What better way can someone who will never have a position of any type of control gain control over others. Being an elder in the WT gives one the control and a feeling of power that he probably will never have anywhere else."
I do not know where you got the idea that as a general rule JWs are wealthy people. What is your idea of wealthy?
Scorpion
there has been a few topics mentioning old wts and studies in the scriptures and where the original quotes and pubications can be found and read.. > http://www.geocities.com/athens/oracle/2713/index.htm
There has been a few topics mentioning old WTs and Studies in the Scriptures and where the original quotes and pubications can be found and read.
my local library has the studies in the scriptures by russell.
here are a few quotes for vol.
2, 1906 edition.. 1872. six thousand years from the creation of adam were complete in a.d. 1872, and hence that since a.d. 1872, we chronologically entered upon the seventh thousand or the millenium.".
This is one reason why I keep all of the WTs old publications. I have several hundred books and pamphlets including Watchtowers and AWAKEs that number in the thousands. When the questioning JW can see the actual qoutes from the WTs own books, it carries more weight than reading something on the net.
To understand 1874 one must be spiritually minded, and the clergy is not. CREATION, PAGE 291
A visible organization is out of harmony with God's divine plan. WT 12/1/1894
Don't quibble about the date; join in with the world and celebrate Christmas. WT 12/15/1904
The Studies in the Scriptures suggested as Christmas gifts WT 11/15/1907
New light never contradicts old light, but adds to it. WT 2/1881,p.188
White people living in China eventually produce Chinese offspring-without intermarrying-due to the influence of soil and climate. WT 7/15/1902, page 3043
"A truth presented by Satan himself is just as true as a truth stated by God...Accept truth wherever you find it, no matter what it contradicts." WT 7/1878, pp.8-9
anyone want to give me cyber hugs and kisses?.
tr.
"yk is his name, false prophecy is his game"
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TR.
Scorpion
my freedom for starts and a free subscription to the revealer newsletter from walnut grove, calif..kool--hey it is for starts and first things i thought of and of course 10 yrs ago my room_mate is also family my daughter __ we is very tight in soo many ways..hw about you!!!??
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QUEENIE,
Freedom starts when one uses the mind that God gave them. The Revealer has some good information I agree, but it is good to double check all the information put out in the Revealer just as it would be good for every Jehovah's Witness to double check all that they are told to believe as truth by the Watchtower.
Dan says hi.
Scorpion
< http://health.discovery.com/convergence/killorcure/blood/blood.html.
a portion:.
a brief history of the study of blood .
The WATCHTOWER, HYPOCRITE!
you can't have purpose without intelligence,and.. you can't have intelligence without intelligence.. .
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if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.
And you can't have Aunt Jemima's pancakes without the syrup.