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  Banks never show the tellers what counterfeit money looks like? It’s truly a lie!

  by life is to short in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have been meaning to post this for awhile and i just came across this example yet again with a jw it is so frustrating because it is just not true!.

  i so clearly remember assemblies and talks where this point was brought out over and over, that banks teach their teller only what real money looks like so they will know the feel and touch of it, that banks never give their telles counterfeit but only real money so then when a counterfeit comes through they can catch it easily because they know what the real thing looks like so well.

  it is even in the bible teach book that was printed in 2005.. none of it is true.. when my husband and i left bethel in 1994 i was working at two jobs all the time to try to make it, finally i got a job as a bank teller.

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  I wonder if it's wrong to put counterfeit money in the Contribution Box™. It would serve them right, as they dispense counterfeit Truth™.
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  Ridiculous Memorial Invitation!

  by PrincessCynic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone seen this year's memorial invitation?

  maybe someone could post a picture.. on the front is a question to the householder, 'how do you view jesus?'.

  then it gives multiple choices with accompanying pictues: .

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  In other words, they don't give a $h!t what your view is, they're going to tell you what they think it ought to be, whether you like it or not!!
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  A Congregation of Alligators, et al.

  by compound complex in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  this is only the beginning .... .

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_collective_nouns.

  congregation of alligators.

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  I'm partial to "parliament of owls".
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  Baptism

  by new one in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i just wanted to ask a question as regards jw baptism.

  i already know that just before the actual baptism the soon to be jw has to answer 2 questions, but what i'd like to know is this: during the actual baptism do the jw's stick to matt 28:19 "baptizing them in the name of the father and the son and the holy spirit" ?.

  thanks in advance for any help.. i'd also like to know if it would be possible to speak privatly with one of the more experianced members.

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  Watchtower changes Baptism Questions

  "At the close of the convention baptism talk, the baptism candidates will be in position to answer with depth of understanding and heartfelt appreciation two simple questions that serve to confirm that they recognize the implications of following Christ's example.

  The first question is: On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?

  The second is: Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization?

  Having answered yes to these questions, candidates are in a right heart condition to undergo Christian baptism."

  Watchtower 1985 June 1 p.30
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  Can anyone prove that birthday celebrations are forbidden by God?

  by FaithfulBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know that there is no mention of any birthday celebrations in the bible besides the two which were celebrated by non-believers.

  and it just so happened that on each of these events, someone died (one non-believer and one believer).

  but does it mean that just because the bible mentions these two events, that all birthday celebrations are forbidden?

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  I wrote a spoof article based on King Eglon being smited while "easing nature" and King Saul having his robe cut by David while "easing nature" as "proof" that "easing nature" was not for True Christians™. It's exactly the same Logical™ train of thought for the ban on birthdays.

  wt 8/15/03: Easing Nature - Is it for Christians?
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  Miss a Meeting, Get Hit By a Car

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.hertfordshiremercury.co.uk/hertfordshire/dad-died-in-hertford-road-traffic-incident-inquest-rules-22022012.htm.

  a father-of-five died of injuries from a road traffic incident in hertford, an inquest confirmed yesterday (wednesday february 22).. .

  david aldersonbut coroner edward thomas could not say if the death of david alderson, 66, was accidental, as the driver who hit him in welwyn road, sele farm, has never come forward.. the body of the welwyn garden city resident was found by a cyclist at 6.50am on july 27 last year.. collision investigator constable edward peachment told hatfields coroners court it was believed david was struck by a large vehicle which launched him over the fence, but it was unclear which way he was facing.. he said the motorist would have realised they had hit something.. the retired lorry driver was last seen at peartree surgery in welwyn at 5.30pm the day before, but his actions between then and when he was found are unknown and so is the time of death.. he failed to attend his jehovahs witness meeting that night, but may have thought it had been cancelled.. he had planned to watch television, having marked out programmes in the tv guide.. a man matching his description was seen walking on the road towards welwyn garden city at 7.30pm.. at 8.45pm, regular road user michelle merison saw a woman aged about 50 wearing a flowery skirt and two young men hovering where david was found, with a car on the other side.. his family are desperate for anyone with information to call the police.. mr thomas said: i implore anyone who knows anything about it or remembers seeing david to give their information.

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  at 8:45 pm the meeting would have just finished....

  a woman aged about 50 wearing a flowery skirt and two young men hovering where David was found

  I don't think it was an accident....
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  Your advice please on "Scriptual Divorce"

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my ex and i have a legal divorce.. she asked me to write a letter to the b.o.e so she can get a scriptual divorce.. she said she had spoken to the c.o.b.e ans they would take no action against me as i haven't been to a meeting in about 12 years.. my reply "ok get him to put that in writing".

  so do you think they will put that in writing?.

  and would they take action if i did write the letter giveing her a scriptual divorce?.

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  I'd tell her and her cult to piss up a tree.

  Why would you write a letter to the Body Of Elders™ that has the potential to be used against you, to instigate shunning against you, and to instigate defamation of your character?

  If she wants to admit to adultery / fornication so she can be Free To Remarry™, and suffer the consequences, then suggest that she do so. She's the one who belongs to the cult, not you, let her play by their rules. You are not obligated to do so.
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  Elder's wives

  by Zordino in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i still go to meetings (sometimes) mostly to acompany my wife and kids.

  i have known of jw friends of mine that have gone to elder's for family problems, dispute's with other cult member's or those hemroid's that just won't clear up.

  whatever.... i personally never ever told an elder or elder's a stitch of info about my personal life or trouble's etc.

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  I wonder if the breaches of confidentiality occur with enough frequency to make other JWs leary of confiding in a Brother™ who happens to be an Elder™ or a Sister™ who happens to be the wife of an Elder™.

  The Organizational™ culture of exposing wrongdoing clearly trumps any value they place on confidentiality, unless, of course, we are referring to JWs who are known to be child molesters.
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  Terrible conduct by congregation Elders in hospital room !

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my uncle was rushed to the hospital last tuesday with severe stomach pain.

  (he was diagnosed with colon cancer one year ago.

  the doctors, family,and my uncle decided against colon surgery.

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  Some people just need a kick in the nuts.
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  My 18-yr old college freshman nephew has just been cut off for leaving the JWs...

  by Alfred in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i spoke about him in a previous thread... he's the nicest kid you'll ever meet... smart, humble, shows respect and is very kind to everyone around him... except for one minor thing... you guessed it... he no longer believes in the jw religion.

  also, he feels it is simply a place for hopeless people to gather and give each other moral support without actually doing anything productive to better their lives... i won't get into the details on how he arrived at this conclusion... suffice to say, he did not want to be a part of this crowd any longer.. incredibly, when he was a lot younger, he was able to convince his jw father (a po) and his jw mother (my sister) that they should let him go to college when he turns 18 (and help him pay for it!!!).

  so they started putting some money away and my nephew has been in college since september!.

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  I know it isn't easy. I had huge student loans to repay when I graduated from college. I also had a family to support. But it's so worth it to get an education and a career that satisfies your soul.

  It has been just over a year since my final payment on the student loan was made. I can't put in to words what a sense of accomplishment that was to truly earn my own education and pay for it all on my own. It made me appreciate the value of it that much more, particularly after hearing JWs taunting me that I was wasting my time going back to school because Armageddon Was Just Around The Corner™.

  There may be scholarships or grants that do not have to be repaid to help your nephew financially. He may need to plan to have a lighter course load to allow him to earn some extra money to pay for books and tuition, and also take some summer courses to help lighten the course load even more. Have him check into getting second hand textbooks (same edition as his courses require) from students who may have dropped a course or no longer need the textbooks.

  Can you help him out in some way? It doesn't have to be financial. It could be to have him over for meals regularly, to make sure he's getting enough to eat (because we all know the limited nutrional value of ramen noodles... ) or to get him some toiletries (shampoo, soap, deodorant, toothpaste, etc. because they get de-prioritized when cash flow is limited) or just to hang out with him and let him know that you aren't going to leave him in the lurch like his parents did. I used to buy a chicken on the day the supermarket marked down their meat by 50% to make room for the fresh stuff. I'd roast it on the first day and we'd have maybe half of it for dinner, and half would be leftovers. I'd make sandwiches and a casserole with half the leftovers, and I'd use the carcass to make a big pot chicken stock and put the remaining leftovers in soup, using some celery, onion and carrots and leftover pasta. I paid maybe $5 for the chicken and fed my family of 5 for almost a whole week. If your nephew is willing to learn some basic cooking skills, he can stretch his food budget a long way.

  Could you offer him room and board without creating a bigger problem for him with his family? He may really appreciate that someone in his family wants to help him succeed in college, even if you're limited in the way you can make things a bit easier for him.