Here's an old thread that I started that relates to the topic of child molesters within the JWs.
Posts by Scully
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22The Watchtower Society Sends Known Sexual Predators To People's Homes - How Can We Alert The Public?
by DT ini find it incredible that the public doesn't know this.
the watchtower society is showing callous disregard for the rights and safety of the public.. i really think we need to make an effort to get the word out.
the watchtower society and child abuse are in the news now, especially with the candace conti case and the recent actions of anonymous.. do you think we can get a newspaper interested in covering this story?
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The Watchtower Society Sends Known Sexual Predators To People's Homes - How Can We Alert The Public?
by DT ini find it incredible that the public doesn't know this.
the watchtower society is showing callous disregard for the rights and safety of the public.. i really think we need to make an effort to get the word out.
the watchtower society and child abuse are in the news now, especially with the candace conti case and the recent actions of anonymous.. do you think we can get a newspaper interested in covering this story?
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Scully
I was part of a letter-writing campaign to every elected Member of Parliament (over 1000 letters) around the time of Dateline and The Fifth Estate's program of the pedophilia problem within the JWs.
This was when JWs were still having the Book Study™ in private homes, and assigning pedophiles who were known to the Elders™ into the homes of unsuspecting families for this weekly Meeting™. We received numerous replies, and I received one very concerned phone call from the office of the MP for Nunavut who was absolutely shocked and thought it was terribly disturbing that JWs were sending child molesters Door-to-Door™ and allowing them to attend Home Bible Studies™ and Congregation Book Studies™ without the knowledge or consent of the homeowners.
Most MPs replied cordially with a thank you for alerting them to the problem. The most disturbing reply came from Vic Toews, who is still a MP today. He claimed that pedophilia was the crime with the best hope for rehabilitation, and with proper treatment, has the lowest rate of recidivism. I wish I'd kept his letter and the paraphernalia that accompanied it, because he's the very same MP who tried to paint Canadians who oppose global internet surveillance of private Canadian citizens by the police as being in league with child p0rnographers.
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Latest WT: "Refusing to appear before a JC is like refusing medical treatment"
by cedars inin the latest october 15th 2012 watchtower (page 13).... "because of what they perceive as defects in the elders, some individuals who engage in serious wrongdoing in the congregation have refused to appear before a committee of elders assigned to help them.
this could be likened to a patient who loses out on the benefits of a treatment because he does not like something about the doctor.".
sounds like they're now trying to stigmatize those who try to avoid judical action.
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Scully
And yet, doctors and nurses respect the rights of patients to refuse treatment.
Can the WTS say that about people who refuse to submit before a Judicial Committee™? Or do they just judge those people as being evil, gossip about them maliciously to others and reject their association on the basis of their refusal?
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Scully
It's like metatron always said: they're getting dumber and crazier.
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Scully
BotchtowerSociety writes:
new poster with a question who has not behaved offensively in any way.
Really? Someone comes here - a place where former JWs discuss how their experiences as JWs, their experiences with WTS policy, including the forbidding of birthday observances on the grounds that it gives undue attention (i.e., "worship") to the person celebrating rather than to god - and basically intends to impose that mindset on others who do not share his religious beliefs in a workplace environment.
Celebrating the holidays of the kuffar is haram.
Frankly I'm surprised that more people are not offended at his assumption that we're willing to aid and abet his personal intolerances. We've kindly offered him some alternative suggestions, myself included. BTW, the reference to kuffar is directly from the link that jgnat posted on page 1 of this thread. I'm not refering to non-Muslims in a way that the Q'ran hasn't called us already.
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Scully
The managers where I work recently started bringing a cake to work once a month in honour of everyone's celebrations. It didn't matter whether it was a personal celebration (birthday, wedding, new baby, new house, etc.) or a professional one (achieving an accreditation or certification, or presenting at a conference) the cake was to celebrate everything.
You have to remember that the goal with these "celebrations" is that you are trying to build and maintain a positive morale among your staff. If you take away something that they are accustomed to doing, how does it benefit morale? Will it make your job of morale building easier or not?
Understand that your beliefs regarding not observing the kuffar birthdays if it is the company's directive could put you in legal jeopardy for discriminating against persons on the basis of religion.
If you are serious about your beliefs to the point that you cannot stomach the thought of offending Allah by celebrating with the kuffar, you really would be better off seeking employment with a Muslim-only company.
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Scully
Muslims don't celebrate birthdays.
I guess it depends on the Muslim... perhaps they aren't supposed to, but I know quite a few who do... even birthdays of us filthy kuffar.
JWs don't celebrate birthdays either... but we all know JWs who go out for dinner on their birthdays, you can call it whatever you want, but they are observing the birthday after a fashion. Hell, I used to know an Elder's™ wife who would lip-sync (lips would move, but no sound) the whole happy birthday song to you if she found out it was your birthday.
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Strollers at DC
by InquiryMan inif i understand it correctly, strollers are not allowed at us conventions.. in sweden, a letter was written to the congregation, introducing this new rule.
however, quite a few families wrote letters to the society,.
asking if they wanted families with children to attend the assemblies or not... it was stated that they would not go unless strollers were allowed.. the society pulled back, allowing strollers in designated areas.. in norway, they didn t even bother to introduce the rule in the first place... .
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Scully
When they announced that strollers wouldn't be allowed at the DC, I pointed out that they were discriminating against families with children - we had attended the very same venue a number of times for other events and the venue permitted strollers for them. There were no restrictions on the use of wheelchairs for the disabled, and with the book bags, diaper bags, lunch coolers that people were expected to carry, there was no way in hell I was going to carry a baby and a toddler too.
What they were in actuality attempting to control were the parents who preferred to walk around the building with their child in the stroller during the boring-ass sessions, rather than sit with a miserable kid in the auditorium.
They eventually relented and allowed strollers on the ground level. I was so pissed off that I spent most of the DC in the mother's room with the kids, because it had air conditioning, and the rest of the arena were not allowed to have it. It must have been on the same a/c switch as all the offices used by the CO/DO and convention overseers and the money changers assholes counting the take from the Contribution Boxes™.
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Scully
If you call a group a "cult", people get their hackles up and go on the offensive, even if you're right about them being in a cult.
If you tone the language down and call it a "high control group", people may still get offended, but not in a knee-jerk reaction kind of way.
It's the same kind of thing when JWs call us Apostates™, when we would rather be regarded as "fully informed about Jehovah's Witnesses".
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Scully
If you have a secretary, you could delegate that responsibility to them. That way you are in compliance with the directive without being directly involved.
Your other alternative would be to work for a Muslim company that only hires other Muslims, so you wouldn't have to worry about mingling with non-Muslims, since that is what Islam objects to - because it's okay for you to celebrate the birthdays of Muslims, right?