Posts by Scully

Especially when their idea of appropriate literature for children includes this gem, from Lesson 10 in their publication "Learn from the Great Teacher":

Jesus' Power Over The Demons

DO YOU remember why one of God’s angels became Satan the Devil?— It was his selfish desire to be worshiped that caused him to turn against God. Did other angels become followers of Satan?— Yes, they did. The Bible calls them ‘Satan’s angels,’ or demons.—Revelation 12:9.

Do these bad angels, or demons, believe in God?— ‘The demons believe God exists,’ the Bible says. (James 2:19) But now they are afraid. This is because they know that God will punish them for the bad things they have done. What have they done wrong?— The Bible says that those angels left their own proper home in heaven and came to earth to live as men. They did this because they wanted to have sex relations with the pretty women on earth. (Genesis 6:1, 2; Jude 6) What do you know about sex relations?—

Sex relations are when a man and a woman become close in a very special way. Afterward, a baby can grow inside the mother. But for angels to have sex relations is wrong. God wants only a man and a woman who are married to each other to have sex relations. That way if a baby is born, the husband and wife can take care of it.

When angels took human bodies and had sex with women on earth, their babies grew up to become giants. They were very mean, and they would hurt people. So God brought a great flood to destroy the giants and all the bad people. But he had Noah build an ark, or big boat, to save the few people who did what was right. The Great Teacher said that what happened at the Flood is important to remember.—Genesis 6:3, 4, 13, 14; Luke 17:26, 27.

When the Flood came, do you know what happened to the bad angels?— They stopped using the human bodies they had made, and they went back to heaven. But they could no longer be God’s angels, so they became angels of Satan, or demons. And what happened to their children, the giants?—They died in the Flood. And so did all the other people who did not obey God.

Since the time of the Flood, God has not let the demons become like humans anymore. But even though we cannot see them, the demons still try to get people to do very bad things. They are causing more trouble than ever before. This is because they have been thrown out of heaven down to the earth.

Do you know why we cannot see the demons?—It is because they are invisible. But we can be sure that they are alive. The Bible says that Satan is ‘misleading people in all the world,’ and his demons are helping him.—Revelation 12:9, 12.

Can the Devil and his demons mislead, or fool, us too?— Yes, they can if we are not careful. But we do not need to be afraid. The Great Teacher said: ‘The Devil has no hold on me.’ If we keep close to God, he will protect us from the Devil and his demons.—John 14:30.

It is important that we know what bad things the demons will try to get us to do. So think about it. What bad things did the demons do when they came to earth?— Before the Flood, they had sex relations with women, something that was not right for angels to do. Today the demons like it when people do not obey God’s law about sex relations. Let me ask you, Who only should have sex relations?—You are right, only married people.

Today some young boys and girls have sex relations, but this is wrong for them. The Bible talks about the male “genital organ,” or penis. (Leviticus 15:1-3) The female genital parts are called the vulva. Jehovah created these parts of the body for a special purpose that should be enjoyed only by married people. It makes the demons happy when people do things that are forbidden by Jehovah. For example, the demons like it when a boy and a girl play with each other’s penis or vulva. We don’t want to make the demons happy, do we?—

There is something else that the demons like but Jehovah hates. Do you know what it is?— Violence. (Psalm 11:5) Violence is when people are mean and hurt others. Remember, that is what the giants, the sons of the demons, did.

The demons also like to scare people. Sometimes they pretend to be people who have died. They may even imitate voices of those who have died. In this way the demons fool many into believing that dead people are alive and can talk with the living. Yes, the demons cause many people to believe in ghosts.

So we must be on guard that Satan and his demons do not fool us. The Bible warns: ‘Satan tries to make himself look like a good angel, and his servants do the same.’ (2 Corinthians 11:14, 15) But, really, the demons are bad. Let’s see how they may try to get us to be like them.

Where do people learn a lot about violence and improper sex and spirits and ghosts?— Isn’t it from watching certain television shows and movies, playing computer and video games, going on the Internet, and reading comic books? Does doing these things bring us closer to God or closer to the Devil and his demons? What do you think?—

Who do you think wants us to listen to and watch bad things?— Yes, Satan and his demons do. So, what do you and I need to do?— We need to read, listen to, and watch things that are good for us and that will help us to serve Jehovah. Can you think of some of these good things that we can do?—

If we do what is good, there is no reason to be afraid of the demons. Jesus is stronger than they are, and they are afraid of him. One day the demons cried out to Jesus: “Did you come to destroy us?” (Mark 1:24) Won’t we be happy when the time comes for Jesus to destroy Satan and his demons?— In the meantime, we can be sure that Jesus will protect us from the demons if we keep close to him and his heavenly Father.

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JW family made contact....

by LouBelle in

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.....after 8 years of us being disfellowshipped.

the made contact through my aunt who is still 'in' - as in she has faded but is not disfellowshipped and will pop to a meeting now and again - she does this for my grans' sake.. the contact was from my aunt and uncle (he's an elder) these were the 2 witnesses used against me in my judicial case.

they contacted my aunt and said to forward the message onto us.

Scully

LouBelle,

I am *so* proud of you!! Good for you for telling them exactly what they can do with their Necessary Family Business™.

I just love it when their douchebaggery blows right up in their self-righteous faces.

"For whatever a man is sowing, this he will also reap." ~ Galatians 6:7

"Send out your bread upon the surface of the waters, for in the course of many days you will find it again." ~ Ecclesiastes 11:1

Don't they understand that shunning family DESTROYS family?? They sowed shunning and are reaping its harvest with interest.

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My mother wants to see my kids

by mrsjones5 in

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i decided to call my mother more often at the request of my brother (the parental units have been driving him crazy and my calling more hopefully will decrease the craziness my brother has had to deal with).

so i called her last tuesday and the first thing that pops out of her mouth is she recovering from a weekend of babysitting her "substitute grandchildren" (her exact words and actually my nonjw cousin's children) since she doesn't get to see her own grandchildren.. wonderful .

there are reasons why i don't take my children to my mother's house.

Scully

Someone who disrespects the father of my children loses access my children. That's the long and short of it. When they are prepared to rectify the situation, sincerely apologize, and make amends, then the situation may change; but it's all on them.

For whatever it's worth, Josie, I understand your position and totally support it.

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What on earth is going on with this woman's hair?

by JeffT in

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this ad popped up a minute ago.

i have to wonder if going out in public on a bad hair days is a crime in her town.

maybe it should be.

Scully

Her hairstylist should get a ticket and be charged with fraud.

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Atheists / Agnostics: do any of you still enjoy going to church/mosque/synagogue?

by free @ last in

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i'm in awe of sacred spaces.

love stained glass rose windows and gothic architecture.

i like coral music (who knew).

Scully

No, going out for breakfast is much more satisfying than going to worship services.

I can enjoy the architecture of a church without having to listen to a sermon. I can listen to Gregorian chant without the imposition of worship.

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What movie did you walk out on when a jw? Have you seen it since? What changed?

by Wasanelder Once in

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ok i walked out on austin powers because i thought it was so crude and god dishonoring.

since the fade i think it is very funny, still not a favorite but not the end of the world either.

any movies that were a big sin are nothing now?

Scully

Young Sherlock Holmes in 1985; during the human sacrifice scene (which obviously would have been thwarted). In my defense, I was pregnant at the time, and the thought made me nauseated. I should have just stepped out for some air, instead of ruining the movie for my hubby too.

Hey, talesin... Another World was the only soap opera I ever watched. It was my guilty pleasure Monday through Friday afternoons. My mom got me hooked on it. LOL

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Question for some of the other gay posters

by littlerockguy in

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have you guys seen the meme on facebook going around about "tim tebow vs jason collins" comparing tebow "bashed for professing christ" and collins "praised for homosexuality" and then at the bottom the scripture isaiah 50:20: woe to those who call evil good and good evil?

i have had a couple friends of mine post that on their wall and it showed up on my wall.

i don't care what they believe however it just bothers me that they didn't think that i would find it offensive.

Scully

I'm not gay, but I find it offensive. It's like a bully who, having tormented his victims for things beyond their control, cries foul when they have consequences imposed on them for their behaviour.

Just more bullying, by bullies.

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Good Info for people that might get cancer

by Iamallcool in

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http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/every-doctor-knows-chemotherapy-causes-cancer-says-surgeon/.

Scully

sorry for the delay, cofty - I was asking Iamallcool to provide evidence, not you.

Thanks for mentioning the Pink Ribbons, Inc movie, Hortensia. I'll be watching it this weekend.

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Ripping a persons faith away, a heavy responsibility?

by Seraphim23 in

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Scully

JWs have no such qualms when they undermine the faith of the people they recruit into their cult. In fact, they do it so subtly that the person is barely aware of them chipping away at beliefs once held.

They start with the traveller/map analogy. Then they teach you that God has a name, just like you and I do, and that their religion kept that knowledge from them. They plant seeds of doubt and capitalize on those doubts.

Yes, it ought to be a heavy responsibility, because of the potential to create rifts in the very fibre of family units. They've turned wives against husbands, children against parents and grand parents, destroyed perfectly good friendships. They've separated children from grandparents, aunts, uncles and cousins. They've convinced people to sacrifice their lives in a medical emergency, to allow their parents, spouse and children to die for lack of blood transfusions.

They will destroy you if - once you drink the Kool-Aid -you try to leave. They'll turn your family against you; loyalty to the cult is #1.

Given all those basic facts, I don't feel the slightest bit of guilt in undermining anything the JWs teach - they've been doing this sort of things to families around the world for over 100 years. It's about time we used the knowledge and resources at our disposal to fight the cult-scourge.