I guess I've been lucky - my JW family members wouldn't dare shun me (Inactive™, not DFd) with Worldly™ family members present. They are so desperate that the non-JWs regard them as "normal" that they pretend not to be fanatics.
Posts by Scully
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24The Shunning truth is now out...
by babygirl30 ini have been df'd for 9yrs as of july 31 (yay me!).
so as i have written about previously in other posts, my whole family (parents + sister) made the choice to treat me as if i do not exist, and i have accepted it.
last summer they made a blatant show of it as our family reunion, in that they would walk right by me and not say one word...prompting our extended family to question their actions.
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Active JWs celebrating birthdays
by neat blue dog ini remember hearing parents say they're going out to eat for their child's birthday some years ago, and recently i see a lot of active jws wishing each other as well as worldly people on facebook a happy birthday, including emoticons related to partying.
is this a judicial offence, or have you seen anything similar?.
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Scully
I used to know a JW family (the father was the PO at the time) where each family member's birthday was observed, on their birthday, by going out to a restaurant that would give the birthday person's meal free. They declined the staff birthday-serenade and cake. If the mother in that family knew it was your birthday, she would go up to you and lip sync the Happy Birthday song to you. No music, no vocals = no birthday wishes.
It never ceases to amaze me the logistical gymnastics that were employed to find these loopholes and work-arounds.
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Is wife beginning to turn around?
by StarTrekAngel inso some may have read the long and boring post about our last vacation and some of the things that my wife came to tell me during our time away.
i am adding the link here but i can summarize it for time's sake.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5768475763015680/vacation-time-reality-closing-up-on-my-wife.
in a nutshell, right before we left, we found out of a jw couple we know well.
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Scully
When I was having issues with the hypocrisy that I was aware of within our Congregation™, my mom recommended that I basically suck it up, and remember that my relationship with Jehovah™ was the important thing, not how other JWs were behaving.
I said: "You know, it's interesting how if I was someone that you met In Service™ talking about the hypocrisy in their church, you wouldn't hesitate to point out that this was proof positive that their religion was false. How is it that when JWs behave badly and hypocritically, that the same measuring stick doesn't apply to them?"
She couldn't answer me.
We became Inactive™ more than 20 years ago, and while my parents don't go out of their way to call or visit so they feel they are compliant with JW rules, they've never turned me away or refused to speak with me.
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Scully
I had a good laugh one time when a Sister™ shunned me in a grocery store. She was staring at me from afar, and when I made eye contact with her, she turned her face away and stuck her nose in the air. She just looked so foolish, and I'm sure she thought she was Giving a Good Witness™ to everyone around us who had no clue what she was doing and cared even less about what she was doing. I started laughing out loud, which totally pissed her off, because she got all huffy and stormed off down the aisle in the opposite direction.
I think it was the best thing that could have happened out of that situation. I showed her that she had no power over me, and that despite her attitude (which was always pretty nasty toward me from the beginning) she was not going to have any impact whatsoever on my happiness.
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Has anyone been outed by jw health care workers?
by purrpurr incarrying on from audespare thread.
i was wondering how common it is for a sinner/apostate to be outed by a babbling jw care worker?
say you went to your dr because you were pregnant and unmarried or wanting counseling for having to live a double life as a pretend jw... and a jw secretary at the drs office saw this on your file and went tattling to the elders?.
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Scully
I wrote an essay about this ethical dilemma for JW health care workers, when I was in nursing school.
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I'm getting baptized
by BlackWolf ini know i've started similar topics before but this time i'm serious.
my parents have been constantly pressuring me and after yesterday's watchtower study they asked me if i was going to be baptized this summer... and i said yes.
i probably should have thought about it more before making a final decision, but they're pretty much forcing me to do it anyway.
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Scully
Are you old enough to get a driver's licence? No.
Are you old enough to vote? No.
Are you old enough to open a bank account without needing your parents to co-sign for you? Probably not.
Are you old enough to get married without your parents' permission? No.
Are you old enough to join the military? No.
Are you old enough to sign a contract? No.
Are you old enough to get a job? Maybe, but maybe not.
My point is this: The law of the land does not permit *children* to undertake certain adult activities, and for a very good reason: a child's power of reasoning and critical thinking is not fully developed. Unscrupulous people prey on young people like yourself and trap them in situations that can cause irreparable damage to the young person. Why do you think so many kids start smoking or trying drugs when they are teenagers? It's because they really want to be accepted by peers, despite what they have been taught about the dangers of these behaviours.
If the Watchtower Society had your best interests at heart, why would they need to put so much pressure on young people to forego higher education, or limit association outside the Congregation™, or get Baptized™ before they are old enough to really truly understand the consequences of being Baptized™?
If your parents are reasonable, they would allow you to complete your high school education in a Public School. If they are reasonable, they will allow you to wait to get Baptized™ until you are an adult (like Jesus did). If they are reasonable, they will allow you to go to community college or vocational school to learn a trade so that you can support yourself if and when you wish to Pioneer™ (like the Apostle Paul did). The Bible™ says that "overseers" should be "reasonable" (1 Timothy 3:1-3) and that Christians should "let your reasonableness become known to all men" (Philippians 4:5).
Only people (and Organizations™) who are unreasonable would try to force a person who is not legally an adult, to make adult-sized commitments. If someone was trying to get you to sign a contract or force you to get married or recruit you into a gang at your age, they would be committing an illegal act. I believe in my heart of hearts that coercing or strongly persuading or using threats to get children to commit to a religion should be punishable by law, particularly if leaving that religion in adulthood results in severe negative consequences for that person.
PLEASE WAIT. Peer pressure is still peer pressure, whether it's from kids at school or kids at the KH or even family members. You DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS.
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21 May Branch Visit by Reino Kesk in Italy...........ohohohoho!!
by LaFrancia innews from the bethel of italy very soon ?.
the properties in rome, will be sold ?
will remain only germany bethel in selters and in italy will remain only.
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Scully
Reno Kesk was our CO when I was a kid. He always said to think of Draino Desk to help remember his name.
Apparently it worked. lol
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Connect with people in Nova Scotia?
by Nicodemus Kathoplizo inmy family and i have recently awakened after watching the arc, reading coc etc.
we are feeling quite alone out here, and are looking for a group for bible study.
we now identify as christians, and are looking for some association with exjws out here.. thanks.
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Scully
Welcome.
It's been a long time since I've lived in NS, but I would be interested in hearing your family's story of learning The Truth About The Truth™.
cheers,
Scully
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JWs sell 124 Columbia Heights to Florida Panthers owner
by betterdaze injehovah's witnesses sell 124 columbia heights to florida panthers owner vincent violavirtu ceo vincent viola pays $105m for jehovah’s witnesses building in bk heights.
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Why did Jehovah want to kill Moses?
by Doug Mason inon the way, at a place where they spent the night, the lord met him and tried to kill him.
but zipporah took a flint and cut off her son's foreskin, and touched moses' feet with it, and said, "truly you are a bridegroom of blood to me!
it was then she said, "a bridegroom of blood by circumcision.
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Scully
It was because Moses broke the Abrahamic covenant - the one that required males to be circumcised on the 8th day of life - by (1) marrying outside the tribes and (2) allowing his wife, Zipporah, to carry on with her family traditions, which did not, apparently, include circumcision of the male children.
PS - I inquired about this scripture to one of the Elders™ when I was 14 or 15. His answer? "Why don't you do some research and tell me what you find." I guess he didn't know how to say "I really don't know."