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My mom passed away yesterday....

by minimus in

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friends

thank you all for your sincere encouragement during these last few weeks.

finally, she is at peace.

i was with her , holding her hand when she died.

The right to shun - wrong?

by Simon in

many people are understandably upset and angry at the notion that jws have the right to shun people.

it seems such an obvious "no brainer" cruel and inhuman thing to do - it must be wrong ... surely?.

of course we look at things from the perspective of those hurt and harmed by shunning.

Scully

We all shun people.

The crazy neighbour that makes shooting gestures at your dog? Shunned. Avoided.

Your spouse's ex? The one that still gives him grief even though you've been together for years? Shunned.

Telling people that they cannot shun anyone for any reason would be completely unhealthy. We have the instinct to shun and avoid people - even if we cannot rationally say why we feel we should - as a safety measure. We should be allowed and encouraged to set up healthy boundaries in all relationships we have, whether they are superficial, deep or somewhere in between. People have to learn to respect healthy boundaries.

What groups like the WTS does is remove the right of its members to exercise healthy boundaries, and interfere with the natural boundary setting mechanism in order to create artificial boundaries that are implemented to protect the survival of the group, not the individual.

Why else would parents ignore the natural desire to save their child's life by all means necessary? Why else would people put their financial best interests aside, and instead donate their inheritance to the WTS? Why else would someone ignore their Spidey-sense about someone else, only to later learn that they've trusted their children to the care of a molester?

Frankly, there are people who deserve to be shunned and people I don't want in my life. I certainly would not want the government or a court to tell me that I have to associate with these people and damn well like it.

Oh, and as far as child molesters go, I don't think they should be shunned. Rather, they should have the words "CHILD MOLESTER" tattooed on their forehead, and then be allowed to circulate freely among a prison's general population. Survival of the fittest and all that.

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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

by Perry in

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friends

none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

just found out this morning.

Scully

Very sorry to hear this, Perry.

I wish you'd had a chance to say a proper good-bye to your mother. What the JWs do is inexcusable.

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First thoughts on "new" meeting...

by konceptual99 in

had a quick look at the workbook and flicked through the sample meeting video.. the increased use of video shows the trend for more centralised dissemination of "best practice" .

sure there isn't really a "school" any more and the format is a bit different but i think those that called it as the same old crap just in new package got it pretty much right.

.

Scully

You'd think they could give the guy a properly fitting suit. How distracting...

He actually looks like he's trying to hide a bulging colostomy bag... which is an appropriate metaphor for this "new" Meeting™ format.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body and the COW an illustration

by Watchtower-Free in

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Scully

I thought you were referring to the Watchtower article from the 60s that compared women to cows in heat... "when the ovum is at large"... LOL

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4556/women-cows

* How can girls guard against temptation in this sex-crazy world?

When a girl reaches the age of puberty or physical maturity, her
body has developed in the matter of sex more than in the mind.
Young folks like to be together, first in groups, later in twos.
If they have not been instructed by their parents in regard to the
matter of sex, a boy and a girl are likely to become too familiar
and to engage in what is popularly called petting or necking. They
may practice this for a time and see no bad results. However, the
time will come when there will be great danger in such actions.
Why? In answer to this question, we can learn about nature and sex
from the bovine family of mammals, both wild and tame.

Large herds of cattle, both male and female, wander over the plains
feeding. Ordinarily the male or bull would not think of approaching
the female or cow for sex purposes. If he did approach he would not
receive a hearty welcome, but, rather, he might be gored by the cow's
horns. There is no petting or sex relations between bull and cow
permitted, because the female is not in physical condition to breed.
The bull seems to understand this and keeps in his own place. However,
when the female of the species is in condition to breed, she makes the
matter known. If there is no male in the herd, she will go elsewhere
looking for one and she is unsettled until she finds one and then is
bred by him. Now she is contented, and the end result is a calf. In
this connection it is interesting to note that the male animal has no
season at which he is not willing to engage in the breeding act.

If we humans would take a lesson from these creatures, we would learn
something of importance in matters of sex, as to its purpose and the
results of its operation.

As with a cow, when a young girl who has reached her puberty is in
physical condition to conceive and become pregnant, her sex emotions
are greatly aroused. If she has association with a boy, she is
inclined to think that it is the sweetness of the "boy friend" that
causes this delightful and new feeling, and so she becomes infatuated
with him. If the boy friend should become sexually aroused and lets
her know it and then she yields her body to the advances of the
amorous boy friend, she is likely to become pregnant as a result of
just one sex experience of this kind.

Some persons foolishly think that they know when it is "safe" to
have sex contact with those of the opposite sex and thus avoid
becoming pregnant, but this is a serious mistake on their part.
Even learned biologists do not know exactly when there is no danger
of conception for a woman. This is due to certain irregularities
in the case of various females.

When the ovum, that is, the egg cell from which the baby starts,
is at large or is on its way from the woman's ovary through her
Fallopian tube to the uterus, there it remains for an uncertain
length of time, which varies greatly with different females. Then
is the time when conception can take place if the ovum is met by a
male life sperm. During that same time the female is sexually
aroused and is ready for the sex act that at this time will cause
a baby to result. This bearing of children is the sole privilege
of the female. In fact, this is one main reason for creating the
female of the human species.

There are cases where a girl became pregnant as a result of one sex
interview with a boy. What a price for a girl, a virgin, to pay for
a few minutes of satisfied sex emotions! When persons start in
this dangerous and sinful course, they find it hard to overcome
future temptations. When a young, unmarried girl falls to the
temptation, the price she pays is terrible: shame, sorrow, a ruined
reputation, endless troubles, with the danger of being
disfellowshiped from a congregation if the girl is a dedicated
member. It is high time for girls to understand the make-up of
their bodies and its functions, especially with regard to sex.
Then if a girl understandingly takes care of herself while the ovum
is at large and is causing sex disturbance and cravings within her,
she will be able to act like a true lady of irreproachable morals
at all times. She will avoid the violating of her virginity and
the shame and conscience-stricken state due to this; and wisely she
will direct her young life so as to end up in the position of a
clean, happy wife and mother of legitimate children, jouneying to
the new world of righteousness, where there will be no sex problems
amid a sex-crazy population.

The Watchtower, 12/15 1961, p. 767.

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My Mom Is Dying

by minimus in

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friends

i just wanted to say that my dear 89 year old mom is terminally ill and will soon pass.

she is on morphine and hanging on.

she has been a devout witness for about 60 years and a wonderful mother.

Scully

So sorry to hear about the turn for the worse, minimus.

Hugs for both of you.

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My Mom Is Dying

by minimus in

jw
friends

i just wanted to say that my dear 89 year old mom is terminally ill and will soon pass.

she is on morphine and hanging on.

she has been a devout witness for about 60 years and a wonderful mother.

Scully

I'm glad to hear the update, and I hope your mom pulls through. Enjoy every minute you have with her.

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Template to dump Special Pioneers

by avaddohn94 in

"downsizing" has reached special pioneers.. this is the template mexico is using to get rid of many of its special pioneers.

see how cold and unloving is the language they use.

a translation attempt is as follows:.

Scully

Since nobody's said it yet, I have no choice....

Well, isn't that Special™?

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/60520105.jpg

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Looking at the pics of Warwick... I'm chocked.

by StephaneLaliberte in

i am truly chocked and baffled by the number of volunteers they got for this project; especially in the states.

looking at one of their articles on the matter, they stated that a large portion of the printing work was delegated to other locations than ny, thus, they did not need as much space as they did in ny.

also, it was stated that operation cost in nyc were expensive.

Scully

ecan6:

You certainly gave fukitol a proper dressing down in flawless English. Just sayin'.

and to fukitol:

I'd hardly call someone who has eight (8) years on the site a "newbie".

As you were.

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For those of you that are disfellowshipped, How Far Would Your Faithfull JW Family Go To Stay Loyal to The WT?

by John Aquila in

ive seen jw parents shun their disfellowshipped children for 20-30 years.

ive seen parents remove disfellowshipped or fader children from wills and give the inheritance to the watchtower..

if your country got run over by some form of government like the nazi regime and started a process of eliminating any groups or individuals who it considered a threat.

Scully

One of the things that scared the crap out of me when I was a kid growing up in a JW home, was the thought that if one of my siblings or I ever needed blood transfusions to save our lives, our parents wouldn't bat an eye and would willingly sacrifice us on the WTS's NO BLOOD altar.