just like everyone else.
Have the Witnesses ever been right on anything???
Yes.
1. Don't do something just because everyone else is doing it.
2. Don't worry about what outsiders think of you.
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JWs Were Right About Something
by minimus inthey used to say the world governments would turn on religion.
i think this part is coming true.
however they also said since jehovah’s witnesses were going to be the only religion left the governments were going to focus on the “eyeball”of jehovah, his people.
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What are the Society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhat are the society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?.
are there specific rules or watchtower articles that must be followed?.
i have been to three different wakes/funerals where a disfellowshipped person attended with different results.. 1. ten years ago my first cousin passed away.
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My uncle, my cousin, and my grandmother (100 yrs!) all passed last year. They are all on the JW side of the family. They have been shunning me since I was about 20 years old. I found out from someone on Facebook that they had passed... months after the fact. I'm not even DF or DA. My dad and my brother are DA. My elder sister is inactive like me (we refuse to act like they have any power over us by DAing.) But we all left at about the same time and the family has been shunning all 4 of us ever since. So, I doubt we will find anything out.
My brother was diagnosed with cancer this past year (we just found out he is in remission!). My younger sister is still a JW and she was so incensed and hurt that no one had told her about it. Dude... you are shunning us. If you want to know what is going on, you can't shun us. We can't be dead to you but alive enough to tell you we are dying. Seriously.
Aparently my mother was diagnosed with breast cancer for the second time in 30 years. I doubt I will be told if she dies. I know we wouldn't be welcome at the funeral. I think it makes a difference when everyone in attendance is JW. When it is mixed there is a lot more likelihood that people will behave nicely towards DF'd folks. When just a DF shows up and the rest are JWs it is a lot easier for them to be mean.
But I also agree that it depends on people. My elder sister and I never felt it was right to be spiteful and mean to disfellowshipped people. I never treated them like they were dead to their faces. I didn't treat them like they were dead behind their back either. I just was selective about how much time and what context of activities I spent with them.
Everyone deserves to grieve for their loved ones. Having said that, it is often just better to have a personal memorial outside of the JW funeral. The funeral is used in such a morally wrong way by the JWs to advertise their religion. That isn't what a funeral should be. It should be a celebration of a life and a chance for people to grieve.
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You have to admit if there were to be a 2nd coming of the Christ, now would be the time!
by nowwhat? ini'm not talking about armageddon, but a chance for all mankind to "reset" and come together.
just sayin.
i know i'm going to get nailed, but that's ok. i still consider myself a christian..
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Why now? What because Americans are feeling it? You should get nailed for that kind of self-centered thinking. The state of the world today isn't much different than it has been in the past. Ebola at it's worse happened when there was more political conflicts happening. HIV/AIDS struck when the Cold War was still going on. If you compare recent events to other similar events in the past... you will find that the world right now isn't worse than it has ever been before. The big difference? US citizens are feeling it. I'm pretty sure God/Christ isn't American. I'm pretty sure God/Christ claims all nations on earth.. not just the most privileged nation on the planet. So until things are worse than they have ever been... everywhere, then NO it isn't a good time for that kind of ignorant remark.
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Suing The Music Industry
by Lost in the fog injehovah’s witnesses file copyright lawsuit in response to blundering christmas album - listen, obey, and be blessed.
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https://www.toptutorials.co.uk/jehovahs-witnesses-file-copyright-lawsuit-in-response-to-blundering-christmas-album-torrentfreak/.
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The appearance of this song on a commercial album immediately raised alarm bells among the religion’s followers who, through their teachings and knowledge of their faith, knew this track shouldn’t have been used in this manner.
That's a whole lot of people listening to a Christmas album.
I know it is part of their doctrine and belief system to be 'separate' and all that, but this issue just underscores how stupid that belief system is.
Most religions have a separatist belief system. "There is only one God' often precludes being inclusive of other religions. But the copyright infringement is not the same issue as the 'being included' issue. The watchtower has filed separate charges in this case; 1. copyright infringement 2. having their song included among other religions 3. having their song used as a Christmas song. GEMA probably did not have the correct permission. They have a lot of lawsuits against them for copyright infringement in the music industry. I knew that before I read the article as their cases come up in news a lot. They rarely win. I think it is interesting that the JWs might get the profits from their song being sold as a Christmas song. Shouldn't that go against their beliefs?
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What has SARS Cov 2 been doing since 2004?
by BoogerMan inin 2002-2004 - during its first time around - that "pandemic" killed 774 people worldwide and then "evaporated.".
strange how viruses "work.
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SARS, MERS, and Covid19 are all coronaviruses. Covid19 is a strain that directly came from SARS. SARS did not evaporate. It mutated and evolved which is exactly what viruses do. The link below is a good article that explains the history of coronavirus and talks about how viruses evolve.
WebMD article on the history of coronavirus
This WHO web page has a list of years we had disease outbreaks. They go back to 1965 and include other outbreak diseases like Ebola as well as the Coronaviruses. Just select a year and you can see what the diseases were doing.
WHO timeline of disease outbreaks by year
I know if feels good to rail against the system, but it really isn't hard to look this stuff up. I got these two articles within 3 google searches. If you want to understand diseases and how they work, try looking up information easily provided by WHO, CDC, and WebMD... just to start. Medical and university provided information is likely to be reliable.
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Is Anyone Happy That Police Forces Are Being Abolished or scut??
by minimus inin minneapolis, the city council has voted to abolish the police.. many cities want to either disband or defund the police.
black lives matter and other groups have influenced citizens and neighborhoods to get rid of police and their authority.
is anyone really supportive of removing the police or cutting out law enforcement through the budget?
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Disbanding and defunding doesn't mean 'no police'. Sometimes the ignorance on this site is impressive. Not in a good way. If you can do research to debunk the JWs, surely you can do research to learn what these things mean in reality versus just in the literal sense of the words.
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Is Anyone Happy That Police Forces Are Being Abolished or scut??
by minimus inin minneapolis, the city council has voted to abolish the police.. many cities want to either disband or defund the police.
black lives matter and other groups have influenced citizens and neighborhoods to get rid of police and their authority.
is anyone really supportive of removing the police or cutting out law enforcement through the budget?
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I was against defunding and disbanding police until I listened to some police officers that I respect talk about what that actually means. I thought all police would be against it but that isn't true. Now, I'm working on learning more and I'm not completely against the idea.
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How far is this idiocy going to go?
by BoogerMan inhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53201667.
the simpsons team - because of criticism over white actor hank azaria's voiceover of indian-american character apu - is terminating the caricature.
people claimed that it "reinforced racial stereotypes.".
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The article says they faced this action a while ago... moreso because they have a white actor doing the voice instead of an Indian actor. There is a good chance they will keep the character and just give it a new voice.
It does promote a racial stereotype. I thought that is part of what social satyr does.
If you feel threatened because an actor and a production company decided to cater to their public.... if you think that will lead to loss of liberties and freedom of speech, you might be missing the point that it is a reactionary to the public who spoke out. That is exactly how freedom of speech works.
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Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?
by minimus ina new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.
of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?
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Are they polling the electoral college? If not, then it really doesn't matter. Last time, Clinton won the popular vote but Trump won the electoral college.
What I can say is, I'm not voting for any men accused of sexually assaulting women... and that means I'm not voting for either Biden nor Trump. I know a lot of people who are saying they won't be voting for Biden and yet they don't want Trump in office either. I have no idea who they will be voting for. I'll be writing a name in. -
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Would Watchtower Ever Risk Setting Another Date
by Number 6 inthere was a 50 year gap between the failed dates of 1925 and 1975.. memories fade, people die, and who cares what was said 50 years ago.. most jw's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.
even my mother who was baptized in 1974 who i do remember speaking about it back in the day, can barely remember what the fuss was about.
for active jw's who are doing all there studying online now, its practically impossible to find any wt contemporary reference to 1975.. i read recently (sorry i cant source it right now) that at the time, even watchtower may have taken the view that even if they knew 1975 was wrong, the short term gains would far outstrip those who left leading to an overall net gain so it was a risk worth taking.
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Most JW's now in the religion werent there when 1975 was a thing.
Are you joking? My sister was born that year, I was born in 1976. My mother's entire family is still in. You think her generation wasn't worried about her having children during the end times? You think that didn't have an impact on them then, and then impact their understandings that they taught their children? Please.
The generational teaching are ridiculous but they aren't completely wrong either. Every generation impacts the next generation. And if you think that no one pays any attention because it was 45 years ago..you're wrong. My generation are the parents now and I can guarantee you that they remember their parents being either freaked out or confused. I have peers that are still in who were very much impacted by that belief. Give it more time before no one remembers.