ah... okay... herein may lie the answer to my question where I asked which day is the worst. :)
Thanks, LosingIt!
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at the DC right now,disgusting talk
by losingit intortured by this talk where they are attempting to legitimize the division/ separation of family.. "sadly friends some will refuse to have courage in this matter.is it not in our best interests to abide the arrangements of the christian congregation as set by jehovah?
accept the torture stake involved in confessing union with christ.
then they cite the example of a brother who is thankful to his wife for persisting in preaching to him.. now they are talking about disfellowshipping, lay serious guilt trip .the brother talking about his baby sister getting disfellowshipped, how his father cried for the first time.
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2013 Convention - Day of greatest detriment to the WTS
by NeverKnew ini'm curious.
for those of you who attended, was there any day perceived by you as a greater "...wait, what did they just say?
" day or were they all the same?
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NeverKnew
I'm curious.
For those of you who attended, was there any day perceived by you as a greater "...wait, what did they just say?" day or were they all the same? Given my readings, I'm left with Saturday being that day. Am I wrong?
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Is their understanding of unity a form of mind control?
by I_love_Jeff innote the following comments and research taken from a concise dictionary of cults and religions:.
what [jehovah's witnesses] define as unity is actually, in effect, a rigid organizational structure and policy.
unity, as the bible teaches it, is a oneness of spirit and humility under the lordship of jesus christ.
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NeverKnew
This thread nails the conversations between the current conversations of a JW friend of mine and myself so thank you. :)
On more than one occasion, he has mentioned "unity" as a significant barometer of being a Christian which has puzzled me. I'm beginning to realize that he has been seeing the churches as being a collection of un-unified entities. I've explained that different denominations such as the Catholics, the Episcopalians, the Methodists and the JWs are unified withiin their own doctrine and that many are united in the same readings explored from week to week. Collectively though, the churches are unified in their belief in Christ and respect each other in that regard.
Being united leaves the possibility of FAILing united.
According to the Old Testament, how'd that work out for the Israelites?
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How Do you Solve A Problem Like Maria (or more importantly 1914)
by wizzstick inso how will they solve it?.
having researched the whole 607bce thing, it's clear that it's utter nonsense.
for example, the house of egibi transaction records closes the door on any questions about the reign of kings of this time.
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NeverKnew
Not that many people have left from finding out Jerusalem didn't fall in 607,
Respectfully, I don't know that this is true. As a non-jw, I've researched elements that contribute to awakenings and this one seems to be spoken of quite a bit. On the Meyers Briggs scale, I'd say it contributes to the awakening of the "Thinkers" moreso than the "Feelers" but ANYone's awakening has the potential for another's awakening.
... most JWs aren't even aware there's a controversy.
Yup... but once they're made aware of it, research could potentially help them realize the inconsistencies of the WTS.
Wizzstick, you're really good at tapping into their intentionally confusing logic. Better be careful; they'll be asking you to write for them. *giggling*
In my limited exposure, it appears that they could just stop writing about 607 and 1914 for a period, then make a statement negating all previous statements with no acknowledgement of the former being a lie statement that was inaccurate. The great crowd can then rejoice in the "new LIEght."
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One years has passed since getting the boot. My story, past, present, and beyond.
by BreathoftheIndianNose inso as of today, it is my one year anniversary of being out.
i simplified it so that most people who know nothing of jws can understand.
in addition to writing this as self therapy, i plan to use it to educate others in my life who need to know more about where i come from.
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Excited to read more!
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New Rumor - Watchtower and Awake in one magazine only?
by TJ Curioso inhi folks!.
someone told me that there is a rumor that soon the watchtower and awake's magazines will be only one (fusion).. anybody knows something concrete about that, or is only rumor instead?.
tj curioso.
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NeverKnew
This will let individuals use current technology to spread the word "secretly".
Maybe they can push to do it "invisibly."
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Is it a sign from Jehovah or just irony?
by dissonance_resolved inso i signed up to volunteer at a local urban community center- first time i've ever volunteered for a non-jw effort.
i thought i would end up cleaning, organizing, something like that, but the first thing they wanted us to do was go door to door in the neighborhood handing out flyers!
face palm...
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NeverKnew
Oh now THAT'S hilarious!
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HELP!
by The Searcher ini'd like to post a pdf of the july 15th watchtower with the highlighted nine reversals of teachings in it.
(the ones i've found so far) plus one or two comments i've added.
can anyone tell me how to upload it please?
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NeverKnew
Oh, I would LOVE to see this.
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"New NWT" Nightmare
by NeverKnew init was horrible.
my home's porch has a capacity of about 8-12 people depending on how the chairs are arranged.
seemed like every seat was filled.
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It was horrible. My home's porch has a capacity of about 8-12 people depending on how the chairs are arranged. Seemed like every seat was filled. Nobody was familiar to me. They were dressed up - business suits and skirts. Comparatively speaking, I felt like I had on pajamas.
Finally, a male stated that it was time to start. I don't know how the hell he got to be in charge, but everyone pulled out electronic readers from their bags. I sat feeling the weight of my study Bible on my lap thinking about getting my Ipad but feeling like I shouldn't waste time. He prayed and two sentences in, he was speaking in another language. Opening my eyes to look around, I noticed that everyone had their eyes closed, but their lips all had this plastic grin on them. I decided I wouldn't let this quackery get to me. After the prayer, he reverted back to our native language (English) and suggested we read a passage from "our" Bibles. I thought I turned to the passage but then realized I must have not heard it correctly because my Bible said something totally different. I pulled my Bible close to my chest and intently listened to what he was saying. The passage sounded like Proverbs where sometimes the verses are disconnected. He stopped after a few random unrelated verses and asked if anyone had any questions. I had one but asking "wtf"probably would have disturbed my company.
He asked me what questions I had for them. I realized I was being set up. I asked him to read Isaiah 48:16 in his reader. He read something... but it wasn't Isaiah 48:16. I started feeling VERY uncomfortable. I asked him to compare Hebrews 1:8 then Psalm 102:25 knowing that they should have sounded similar. Again, nothing remotely familiar. A woman looked over her glasses and quietly asked, "Ma'am, do you need a reader?"
I have no memory of what happened after that.
This got me to thinking about how scary it would be if the WTS offered NWT readers that ONLY contained WTS publications. With an internet connection, the WTS could update the literature to say whatever they want it to say. JWs who owned this "convenient" device would of course have no problems with obtaining God's spritual food AHEAD of the KH delivery schedule for just $35 a month/device! This, of course, would not replace the expected literature donations for the message couldn't be spread on a device, right?
I'm watching the profits sour.
Lower production of WT Study magazines so a reduction in personnel/printing/mailing costs
Lower production of hardbound books so once again, a reduction in personnel/printing/mailing costs.
AND, a new income stream! They can make profits from:
the devices,
insurance (SURELY one would want to insure this magnificent electronic device for a mere $10/month)
monthly subscriptions
OH, and don't forget the accessories, you'll need cases, car chargers and extra wall chargers, won't you?
AND THEY WILL HAVE TOTAL CONTROL!
The smart shoppers will realize that next year, the color screen model will be available (re-purchase), then the following year a FASTER model will be available (re-purchase), then the following year the NEXT best thing.
Would they be this shady?
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What about your vow to Jehovah?
by a watcher indid you get baptized without being dedicated?.
why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.
why were you serving jehovah at all?
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NeverKnew
Jeffro weren't you chasing me this morning/last night? Pulling my hair and hitting me with soccer balls? I thought I was the cutest on the playground?
So before I read another few pages, has it been decided whether AWatcher is serious?
Edit: Oh brother... nevermind... and wow.