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  a list of good movies/tv shows to get a JW to think

  by nonjwspouse in

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  ones that have themes that come uncomfortabllly close to the cult dynamic.. i already got him to watch the obsolete man on twilight zone.

  he sauggested watching some old tz again tonight so i wioll pick where is everybody, and escape clause.. i have heard oters say the movie truman show was a good movie as is the matrix ( though i detest violence).

  any more suggestions for my personal handy dandy list?.

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  NeverKnew

  I'm adding "Not Easily Broken" to this list... only because of the effects the WTS seems to have on relationships. The mother-in-law personifies the WTS.
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  "Not Easily Broken" as an eyelid opener for a spouse?

  by NeverKnew in

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  not if your spouse is totally indoctrinated but maybe for one with an eyelid open?....

  i was asked to watch the movie "not easily broken" with morris chestnut and taraji henson.

  i believe my focus was supposed to be on the results of a couple losing sight of the proverbial threefold cord but as the movie progressed, i was struck by something quite different.. the wife is completely caught up with the perceptions of her peer group, the husband has grown weary of fighting for his wife's attention and affection and lastly we have a meddling mother-in-law whose influence over the daughter heavily contributes to the downward spiral of the marriage.

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  Not if your spouse is totally indoctrinated but maybe for one with an eyelid open?...

  I was asked to watch the movie "Not Easily Broken" with Morris Chestnut and Taraji Henson. I believe my focus was supposed to be on the results of a couple losing sight of the proverbial threefold cord but as the movie progressed, I was struck by something quite different.

  The wife is completely caught up with the perceptions of her peer group, the husband has grown weary of fighting for his wife's attention and affection and lastly we have a meddling mother-in-law whose influence over the daughter heavily contributes to the downward spiral of the marriage. For me, the mother-in-law was the personification of the WTS.

  If you are experiencing challenges in your relationship as a result of learning TTATT and haven't seen the movie, imo, it's worth watching. If your spouse has an eyelid open, they may see the parallels. I'm a female but very much so identified with the husband so the movie transcended gender identification.

  If anyone has seen or watches this movie, please let me know your thoughts.
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  How the blood doctrine developed - one of the best descriptions I've seen...

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i got this from this link.

  http://users.adam.com.au/bstett/jwblooddoctrineorigin10.htm here is the information.

  after reading it all, it really made how the doctrine developed look very ridiculous.

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  Most Irritating Thing About The Jw's

  by integ in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for me it is the smugness.

  it's their inability and refusal to admit they are wrong....ever...even in the face of irrefutable evidence.

  isn't pride a sin?

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  I am a non-jw who was visiting the KH in hopes of reaching JWs after learning as much about TTATT as I could. Listening to the self-righteous comments about non-jws made me physically ill. It also made their door-to-door work a total hypocrisy. Why even go to the doors to talk to those you hold in such contempt?

  Luke 18:9-14 makes me think with sadness of my experience in the KH.
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  For the ones who believe in Bible - What does the scriptures here imply on subjection to religious leaders? - Hebrews 13:17-19, 22-25

  by MissConfused in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  do we really need an organization and need to be in subjection to it as god always chose leaders (abhraham, moses, jesus, apostles)?

  what are your thoughts?

  how can you reason this out?.

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  Hi Miss,

  I'm with Crazyguy... in 1 Cor. 3:18-23, we see that folks were already becoming followers of men. Paul is VERY clear about identifying oneself as a follower of men in this passage. He tells us that the wisdom of men is foolishness (folly) to God and not to boast in men.

  I don't believe that the collective wisdom of 8 mortals in Brooklyn, NY is any more impressive than the wisdom of 1 in Vatican City. If you find yourself arguing about which man is more right, you've completely missed the point.
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  Another Revised NWT Thread - subtly sowing seeds of doubt with chart

  by mindnumbed in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  pages 1744 thru 1746 feature a chart of the kings of the southern kingdom, ending with zedekiah in 607.. praise the new bible and all of the teaching aids .... draw attention to kings list and how convenient that is ... but, strangely, i decided to look up information in an encyclopedia about the different kings, and the dates are not the same ... so i checked a couple of sources and they are all different than the chart in the bible .... why would that be?.

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  For those who do not have the new Bible, is the RNWT chart online?
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  I'm Taking A "Newly Interested One" To Her First Meeting

  by Zandor in

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  i've been out of the organization for quite a number of years, and still feel that uneasy feeling that was washed into every cell of my being by wt indoctrination since birth.

  never seems to go away completely, does it?.

  i use to feel the need to talk about my experience in the organization to others, to worldlies, and they never quite seem to understand.

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  I completely understand her. I, too, had no exposure to what was taught in your KHs. Now I feel like I know too much and it's crushing my relationships with those who are JWs.

  I'm going to assume you're no longer in so hopefully she will never have to be where I am.
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  Images of Christ in homeowners living space

  by NeverKnew in

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  2. friends

  what goes through a jw mind when they're sitting in a home with two 8x10 pictures of christ hanging from the wall?.

  anything?

  do they care?

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  NeverKnew

  What goes through a JW mind when they're sitting in a home with two 8x10 pictures of Christ hanging from the wall?

  Anything? Do they care?
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  no birthday celebration after all

  by losingit in

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  2. friends

  new boyfriend is upset bc an old boyfriend when i was a teenager is on my fb friend list and wished me a happy birthday.

  was supposed to go to turkish embassy for cultural celebration.

  my first birthday in years, and total freaking meltdown.

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  LosingIt -

  Non-jw here. You've never been offended by a JW before? If not, you're going to have to develop a thicker skin and definitely deepen your relationships with other non-jws.

  I remember the first time I sneezed in a roomful of JWs. I was totally confused by the failure of any one of these pious ones to say, "Bless You." Silly me! They may as well have said in unison, "F you!"

  I remember the first time I told two of them - on the day of my birthday that it WAS my birthday. Awkward silence followed.... WTH? I felt like screaming... "Let's practice. The POLITE response is, 'oh! I didn't know!... HAPPY BIRTHDAY!'" They may as well have said, "F you."

  I remember the first time I invited one to meet a family member who was coming into town on Thanksgiving. No response and no appearance. Their failure to respond was rude. I would have appreciated it if they would have said, "F you." At least I would have known they weren't coming.

  I remember the first time I was told that the reason for not visiting a church was because of a desire to only be involved with "TRUE" worship. I'm thinking they may as well have said, "F you." I would have gotten that.

  I remember the first time I heard the phrase, "I'm not leaving Jehovah..." after I presented a carefully constructed offer to show the arguments (courtroom-style argument, not combative argument) that supported Trinitarianism. Took me a few minutes, but I soon realized the response translated to, "F you."

  I remember ALL the times I've asked JWs to support THEIR doctrines with respect to

  • Jesus being their mediator,
  • The word "Jehovah" being the creation of a Roman Catholic monk (according to THEIR literature),
  • The year 1914 being originally a prophecy of Armegeddon,
  • The year 606 being the original date of the destruction of the temple that was later moved to 607,
  • Nobody else on planet Earth knowing anything about 607 being the date of the destruction - INCLUDING THE JEWS THEMSELVES,
  • Michael aka Christ,
  • Marriages after Armegeddon being non-existent,
  • the 144,000 being Jewish male virgins,
  • ... should I go on?

  Guess my response for each query ...either they pulled a disappearing act or stated "I can't give you any more information than I already have. THAT'S the answer."

  Each of them may as well have said, "F you."

  Go disppear with a non-jw and have coffee. When your BF finally says, what'd you do?... tell him you spent the time with non-jws and really appreciated their celebration of your existence in this world.

  "F" him.

  I doubt that you do, but gosh I wish you lived near me. *giggling*
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  Do You Think Many Engaged JW Couples Fooled Around B4 Marriage?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  when i was an elder, i had a few couples approach me to confess that they either played around or went all the way.. i suspect there were many more that did not admit to it, though..

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  SFPW

  While I'm sure such things have happened, it's probably not to the same extent as those in the world that get involved with hanky panky.

  I have a bit of bad news for ya...

  Long ago, at 15, my JW friends found it necessary to share their sexual lives with me. I took this information back to my just as clueless as me non-JW friends.

  Did I mention I've never been a JW?

  Decades later, I'm still provided with TMI. Sucks that people in your congregations can be more honest with non-JWs than JWs.