Posts by BluePill2

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The Organization is expanding so much........

by DATA-DOG in

...that district overseers are now being used as circuit overseers!!

that was a comment at the wt study program.

another great comment was this: " you can go to bethel and have zero skills.

BluePill2

The Watchtower leadership reminds me more and more of North Korea:

They are one of the poorest countries in the world, like dirt poor, like in having no running water and electricity and food and stuff, but yet held EVERY year, for 3 months some kind of Olympic Summer games. I am not kidding you. The inaugural ceremony blows every Olympic Games Opening ceremony out of the water (100.000 people participate in this galactic-lick-my-arse-government-show):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPThbdSFg8M

The GB would love to have something similar. They also would love to govern a whole country like this. "No, Sir, we are not beating you up with a rubber stick and electrocuting your nipples, this is love, pure love from our dear leader."

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Mr. Pierce...Mr. Pierce...Mr. Pierce... Mr. Guy Pierce

by confusedandalone in

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friends

a few minuites ago talking to my sister who is finally seeing the watchtower for what it is and is scrutinizing it alot brought something to myu attention that troubled my longtime jw mother dearly.

she said after reading the article about the death of guy pierce she noticed that they never refered to him as brother pirce.

she said everytime they mentioned his name they refered to him as mr. pierce.. .

BluePill2

Guy Pierce once visited as at the Branch (Zone Overseer) and couldn't stop talking about Hawaii and how that was his most favorite assignment. I think it took a lot of courage to be a Pioneer in Hawaii. All these surfers and people with a good Life, going out there in a polyester suit and condemning everything that is fun. I must say THAT takes guts to do.

Surfer Guy

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BOE: Kaboom to DOs

by pixel in

to all congregations re: district overseers.

dear brothers:.

march 20, 2014. we are pleased to inform you of a significant decision made by the governing body that will affect the work of traveling overseers worldwide.

BluePill2

@snare&racket: Hahahahaha, best definition EVER for "Circuit Overseer":

The young JW's are not interested in living like a well dressed homeless person.

How true!

The DO post used to be a job for slackers. They could accompany the CO, but sometimes could also spend half of the week doing some "secret work for the Service Department" (=slacking off). I knew of DO's that would do this all the time. Take time off, pass by at Bethel and spend there a couple of days researching some "difficult matter" or discussing some "high level issues" with personnel from the Service Department (I was one of them and had to sit in with these guys). I knew what they where doing, so, more than once I gave them "special jobs" to do:

go photocopy all this stack of paper and then report back to me, BITCH.

Win-win. They where happy that they could do some "secret branch work" and have three fine meals and I was happy because I didn't have to listen to their bullshit stories. I was a happy Service Department secretary. Could bitch slap DO's and they even thanked me!

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BOE: Kaboom to DOs

by pixel in

to all congregations re: district overseers.

dear brothers:.

march 20, 2014. we are pleased to inform you of a significant decision made by the governing body that will affect the work of traveling overseers worldwide.

BluePill2

Less apartments, less cars and less "maintenance costs". Cost saving measure = simplification Made by Jehovah©

Now, kids go and watch the Video again about "serving in Jehobers organization". Best career move of your Life, I swear.

Kicked

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Is there anything you could do forever that wouln't get boring?

by mynameislame in

not sure when i came to this conclusion but i can't imagine living forever.

after a while i think i would be completly bored with everything.. not saying i wouln't like to live for a few hundred years or maybe even a few thousand if i could travel through space and discover other universes star trek style.

but the thought of living forever sounds like it would eventually become a complete drag.. maybe i'm wrong, maybe after a thousand years or so you would foregt all the stuff that happend at the beginning and just start over in an infinite loop..

BluePill2

@prologos:

That is what I meant. I have been working on this for the couple of weeks/months. It is not easy as our mind is always trying to put us again and again in the thought process of "yesterday" and "tomorrow", but I am able to stay more and more just in the flow of the present moment. The only reality you actually have and even if that sounds strange, you are able to defeat time. You become timelesss, because time is only a concept in our mind. A human "made-up" concept. The cosmos has different time "measurements". In reality any measurement is arbitrary and only exists because we define it. Time measured in years is a concept based on the movement of the sun in relationship to earth. Think about it. Standing on the moon or any other planet would change that measurement.

You experience time in your mind. I don't want to derail the thread or become all too philosophical here, but you get the point.

If you life in the NOW and HERE, time ceases to exist. You actually are able to experience eternity. You defeated the concept of time.

It is a fantastic feeling by the way. Standing on that "razor-thin"-line of the NOW, the present and being conscious of that.

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Heard a rumor: Guy Pierce died this morning

by respectful_observer in

jw
friends

didn't see any other threads, apologies if one already exists.

apparently died of a massive stroke this morning.. r_o.

(completely unconfirmed.

BluePill2

@neverendingjourney: That is why JWN is so valuable. We all where the same and it feels good to meet other people here that acted and thought the same and came to the same conclusion.

I remember how everybody back home would approach me and wanted to know as much as possible about the GB. It made me uncomfortable and uneasy, because it was blatantly evident that people where worshipping them (unconsciously). My mother would hunt down any talk given by a GB member around the Globe and request it as a tape. She accumulated a huge collection of GB talks on tape and would hear them all day long and repeat ad nauseum. Sometimes you could notice how they would contradict themselves over time.

The only person I ever admired and I always looked forward to go out in service was a old German brother from our neighborhood congregation (in Germany). He was a concentration camp survivor (had the number tattooed to his forearm). A down-to-earth and simple man that hated the worshipping of persons.

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Is there anything you could do forever that wouln't get boring?

by mynameislame in

not sure when i came to this conclusion but i can't imagine living forever.

after a while i think i would be completly bored with everything.. not saying i wouln't like to live for a few hundred years or maybe even a few thousand if i could travel through space and discover other universes star trek style.

but the thought of living forever sounds like it would eventually become a complete drag.. maybe i'm wrong, maybe after a thousand years or so you would foregt all the stuff that happend at the beginning and just start over in an infinite loop..

BluePill2

I have come to the conclusion that living just this very moment. This 1 second is enjoyable enough. No need to think about the next hour or if I will be dead. With this in mind, everything is good and enjoyable. Even dish washing, because I do it with full and clear consciousness. I stopped producing thoughts about the future or "What-if"-scenarios. They created too much anxiety as a Witness.

Everything you EVER did or experienced was in that space called "Now". Nothing ever happened outside of the "Now".

So, having said this: sex, eating and drinking. In that order.

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Heard a rumor: Guy Pierce died this morning

by respectful_observer in

jw
friends

didn't see any other threads, apologies if one already exists.

apparently died of a massive stroke this morning.. r_o.

(completely unconfirmed.

BluePill2

neverendingjorney: That was exactly how I was back then. If you become a Bethelite you go through the "Bethel Entrance School". Lasts a couple of weeks and is for all new Bethelites. You have to read the Bethel Manual from page-to-page. Read the Bible in 1 year and know the Governing Body members, by reading all their Life accounts as they appeared in the Watchtower magazine. Me (donkey) lapped every bit of detail up I could about these guys. You could wake me up in the middle of the night and I could tell you a story or two about Gangas, or some obscure detail about Fred Franz's Life.

After 10 years of Bethel Life, I barely knew who was who...the idolatry was too much and over the top. I remember having a zone visit in Colombia (Bogota Branch) and after the talk of one of these clowns, everybody went up to the GB member and asked him for his signature on their Bibles and Song books. He smiled and signed as many books (autographed) as he could. I could have thrown up!

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Heard a rumor: Guy Pierce died this morning

by respectful_observer in

jw
friends

didn't see any other threads, apologies if one already exists.

apparently died of a massive stroke this morning.. r_o.

(completely unconfirmed.

BluePill2

He stayed once in my Bethel room. Loved Hawaii a lot (repeated that a couple of times during his zone visit). I think he also liked my collection of worldly action movies (the stack in my room was not in the same order as I left them - or he was looking for porn or something to get me to trial).

Not a big loss to the world. Move on. Nothing to see here.

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The Best Public Talk I Ever Heard (though the speaker was disfellowshipped thereafter)

by exWTslave in

the best public talk i ever heard was one i heard in a jw kingdom hall.

unfortunately, the hurriedly formed jc disfellowshipped him within a couple of weeks for not worshipping the octo(headed) gb.

this happened two years back when i was his fellow-elder.

BluePill2

I did it on my last Circuit Assembly talks, back in 2005. I was still a Bethelite and was there as the "Branch representative". I only did it in a covert way, but still understandable if you listened (even contradicting the talk given by the Circuit Oversee, who I considered an asshole). I used Bible verses to say exactly the opposite of what the CO said. During the talk I was calm and vigorous (even having to stop myself to become too bold). Then I finished and my knees went weak and I was literally trembling. The DO called me into his office, I thought he would pull the trigger. To my surprise he was all laughs and happiness (had 3 pretty, single sisters there "serving" the Assembly Administration - laughing, talking and serving him Coffees - and god knows what else).

He said that I was a bit overtime and asked me one or two things about Bethel. He had the outline in front of him, but was clearly NOT paying attention. As I was "prominent" and from the Branch, he might have thought that this was some kind of "advanced light".

Later during lunch time only ONE ministerial servant approached me (he was new in "the truth" and freshly appointed) and asked me if I was absolutely sure of the points mentioned in the talk, as they seemed to contradict other lines of thought of the assembly. He wasn't even one of these "ubber-witnesses", a pretty relaxed, laid back guy, married with 2 younger sons. Also not the sharpest "Bible scholar" out there. He really surprised me for taking real attention and having the guts to approach me.

This was ONE GUY out of an attendance of approx. 2.500. It made me wonder if the others where just sleeping or so brainwashed that they would lap everything up that would come from "someone from the Branch" or the GB.

That was my last time on stage. The following month I left Bethel, the assignment (this was in a foreign country) and gave all my "privileges" up. It was one of the many, many proofs that showed me: no holy spirit around. I could have announced that everybody should strip naked and they would have done so.