Riz,
Quit trying to suck up, I told you before, you can't have my bud lite!
Dave
seven006
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having fun with Robert
by seven006 inin another thread robert (you know) and i had a connection.
i learned that he use to roll joints with bible pages.
i did the same as a jw teen.
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Singles Sign-in
by Prisca inthis is a friendly little thread for those who want to pop in and say hi.
some of us are single, and might even be looking, and with the large number of great people on this board, there may be a chance where a couple or two might meet up!.
so if you are single, don't mind sharing a little about yourself here, and perhaps curious as to who else is single, then reply here!.
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seven006
I'm single, but I try and live my life with double standards.<---(humor)
Being single is great, it can give you the time to really get to know yourself. If you do, you will always have a good friend to talk to.
Who ever said that talking to yourself was crazy has never been married.I guess I'm in real philosophical mood today, must be the moon.
Simon,
What in the world does "grass me up" mean?
Dave
-It is more convenient to follow one's conscience than one's intelligence, for at every failure, conscience finds an
excuse and an encouragement in itself. That is why there
are so many conscientious and so few intelligent people.-Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
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Psychological Impact
by individual init is said by jws that 'the truth' never leaves you.
even when you have broken free, you will still be haunted by it, watching the news just in case they were right.
have any of you had these feelings?
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seven006
So long as the priest, that professional negator, slanderer and poisoner of life, is regarded as a superior type of human being, there cannot be any answer to the question: What is Truth?
-Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
I think everyone who is now an ex-JW has had those feelings you have mentioned. They eventually go away and things get a lot better. Life goes on.
Dave
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Are You 'Unevenly' Yoked?
by AGuest inmay you all have peace!.
in the minds of many bible scholars (the wtbts 'scholars' as well), the term 'belial' means 'without benefit' or 'good for nothing'.
that is incorrect, however.
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seven006
Hey!
Where can I sign up to be a slave of Christ? Iv been a free man for over 16 years now and I have to tell you really suck at it. I need guidance, I need discipline, I need a place where I can go and meet other wannabe slaves and tell them about my sins. I want to confess my sins in graphic detail, especially the one about the LA Raider cheerleader I use to date (I got pictures). I want to cry profusely as I cleans my sole of the state of sin I was born into and had no damn choice in the matter. I want to hold hands with others like me and drink from the cup of true freedom and mountain fresh waters. I want to be subservient to older and wiser people who have the IQ of an Oreo Cookie. I want to feel shame and guilt like I have never felt it before. I want to stand on a table top and look up to the heavens and scream at the top of my lungs "Jesus Christ"!!! I want.....I want...I.....hey, wait a second... I can get all this watching a football game at a nudie bar.
Never mind.
Dave
I know I'm bad, god made me that way
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How Did You Find This Site?
by Prisca ina bit of light relief.... .
how did you find this site?
recommendation from someone?
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seven006
I was posting a little on Tishie's site (now Randy's site) and someone
posted the URL for this board. I noticed my old buddy Alan F was posting here so I thought the site would end up being boring as hell. I kept reading and found out there was some of the anointed posting here as well as a couple of real life, present day prophets. I couldn't resist. I fired up my spell checker and waited for an opportunity to post.I am a very fragile person who needs a lot of tender loving care. I cry
a lot and some times I just need a hug and a little smiley face. I saw
that you guys were major huggers and smiley face users so I (being very
shy) made one little post and then the pouring out of genuine love
started flooding in, my whole life changed. I don't hear the voices as
much as I use to and my doctor says his new Lexus is paid for now so I
don't need to come in any more. You guys did that for me.This site has saved my life I love you all very much and...and...(sorry, I'm starting to cry again)...and I just want to thank god for screwing up my life so I could find this site and become whole again.
You people complete me.
Dave
PS: If I can ever do anything for any of you including sending you large sums of money just email me. My email address is [email protected]
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my wife!
by uncle_onion ini have a strange tale to tell.
my current position is ...is that i just dont know!
my wife however has started attending a church and is really enjoying it.
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Alan,
I heard the story of your dog before. Did your mom ever find out you were putting Alpo on the vacuums cord?
Onion,
A woman talked using words that no one could understand and now your wife
claims that her foot feels better. Don't be stupid! Tell her its a damn miracle and
the force must be very strong with her. Then buy her some flowers and get her some sappy Hallmark card telling her how her smile is like a sunset over a field of roses or some crap like that. Then go do the dishes and iron one of her silk blouses and accidentally burn it. When she yells at you tell her (force out a little tear at this point) you were only trying to help and show her how much you love her. If you do all this you will probably get sex at least twice this month and never have to iron anything ever again.Opportunities like this don't come up all the time, use it to the max.
Dave
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having fun with Robert
by seven006 inin another thread robert (you know) and i had a connection.
i learned that he use to roll joints with bible pages.
i did the same as a jw teen.
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Robert?
Have you given up so quickly or are you still trying to find the answer to my last two questions? It not like you to give up so quickly. Do I scare you? I just want to be your pal. I like you Robert, I think we could be good buddies. I could teach you a lot about life and you can teach me a lot about death. Seems like a good match to me.
Don't be upset about the psychological profile I did on you, I was only kidding. I was bored and just wanted to work on my spelling skills. I used big words and everything. I promise not to do it anymore.
Alan F is coming out to visit me in a few weeks. You and I can come up with some fun stuff to do to him. I need your help pal, this may be your only opportunity to really mess with Alan. I know secretly you really like him, come on man, please come out and play with me.
Your pal,
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having fun with Robert
by seven006 inin another thread robert (you know) and i had a connection.
i learned that he use to roll joints with bible pages.
i did the same as a jw teen.
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Jayhawk,
I believe you are right. Either Robert is composing another sermon or he is going to try and avoid my last two questions and not make another attempt to converse with me. He has responded with a little double talk in an attempt to avoid the direct questions I had asked. He used a layman's tactic in trying to change the original question because he knows he cannot answer it. I don't think he is even interested in making an attempt of giving a logical answer because he only has the ability to answer questions that he can quote scriptures with to try and back himself up. In this case he knows there are none. My secondary questions gave him a little idea of where he "thinks" I'm going with all this but I believe he has figured out enough about me to know he is venturing into a discussion that will end up way out of his level of understanding and expertise.
Robert is a smart guy but his level of intelligence has been too focused on things that are out of the realm of creative thinking abilities. He is in essence very lost outside of his scripture quoting capabilities in relation to the art of argumentation. I venture to guess that Robert knows his expertise is only effective in relation to his position he has created in his no mans land and that he not only needs this board, but also the ones he pretends to dislike. This is because the people here have a knowledge in the realm of his only expertise and he can debate subjects that they and he are familiar with, without fear of any real repercussions.
It is very obvious that anything that has to do with real human nature and even slightly touches on the subject of human psychology is far from his level of understanding. In this respect he has given himself away several times and he doesn't even know he did. In a thread someone asked for help in babies names and he replied. He became a bit sarcastic by offering names like Nimrod, Jezebel, and Delilah but the main thing is he replied to a thread that is out side of his stated reason for being on this board. He thus showed himself to be a member of this tribe as opposed to just an irritating adversary.
Robert has put himself in a very unique and precarious position. His revealing a little about his personal life has given me a few of the pieces that are quickly filling in the puzzle of who he is and how he thinks. First of all "if" he really and truly believed he was one of the so called "anointed" JW's there is absolutely no way he would spend time on this board let alone be a regular poster here. His claim to have done heroin told me a lot about him if he did indeed do a little heroin. I won't go into the complete break down on why certain people go to such a drastic level of psychological hibernation but he represents a perfect profile for one segment of those kinds of people. If he is lying about the heroin then he fits the profile in the same way but without the level of conviction he professes.
In simple terms Robert is an extremely lost person with an enormously inflated ego. He has set himself up to be a god like individual. This is a very dangerous level of delusion. When someone puts themselves in that high level of self worth and social need the delusion must continue or the crash will be personally catastrophic. Robert is the poster child for the dangerous psychological platform of "all or nothing." His level of egotism acts as a burier to action from his depression and is far beyond most peoples more common bouts with depression or manic episodes. He has set himself up so high in his psychoses he has no where else to go but all the way to the bottom if he eventually comes to grips with reality. My guess is he has spent some time at the very bottom and his fear of it has made him elevate himself to the position he now professes to be in. He is extremely out of balance. He will deny blatantly obvious proof that his thoughts and comments are wrong because to even slightly accept even one thought of his position being wrong means that he will loose his delusion and probably end up dead.
Robert being a somewhat intelligent person has chosen a perfect vehicle to elevate his ego and retain his delusion. That is religion. Its perfect in that there is no absolute proof of him being proven wrong. There is also no absolute proof in showing anyone he is right ether. Religion is a constant work in progress with as many avenues of thought and belief as could be dreamed up by others just like Robert. Nobody knows what is right or wrong until they are dead. It's perfect for him. It is an even better place to hide the reality of life then the hardest drugs on the planet. This is why it has been said that religion is the opium of the masses. Both drugs and religion tend to get people out of thinking about their every day life and gives them a place to alter their thought patterns. Both give them a high when they are down and a high when they are up. Both take a person away from having to deal with things using their own inner strength. Don't get me wrong, there are drugs that do very good things for people just as there are religions that do the same thing. It is the abuse of both religion and drugs that the problems start to arise. Robert is definitely abusing religion to keep him were he is in life.
Robert is smarter than the rank and file JW and he knows it. It shakes up his delusion of being god like now that the evidence of frailty of that religion is becoming quite apparent. Instead of admitting the fraud in the religion is direct proof it is wrong he has pushed himself up even higher on the delusion scale and has raised himself not only above his religion but has in fact created a special place for him to feel safe as well as superior to it. He feels that when the religion is finally exposed he we feel he has separated himself far enough from it to continue on in his dangerous state of mind. He can then say "I told you so." His psychosis is having one hell of a war with his intelligence and his psychosis is winning. My buddy Robert is certainly a psychologists wet dream.
These are just some of my own thoughts concerning Robert. I may be wrong, but having the ability to be open minded about things and not feeling superior to anyone allows me to make comments like I have and accept the fact that they may indeed be wrong. This is where Robert fails to win any kind of an argument. He has to be right at all costs.
It will be interesting to see if he responds to this in any kind of a logical or rational manner. My guess is he will resort to his old and stale tactics. I guess we will just have to wait and see.Dave
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advice needed--please respond
by lisaBObeesa inthis is a question my df mother would like me to post for her:.
would it be morally right to go back to the jws, even though she doesn't feel it is god's org?
she would do this in order to speak with her life long friends and her youngest daughter, all of whom are quite emotionally distraught due to her dfing.
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>>>Yadirf,
Thanks for the info, but it is irrelevant to the issue at hand. Thanks.
_LisaBobeesa<<<Lisa,
With that comment all I have to say is if your mother is anything like you and has the ability to see through comments and tactics that are used by someone like Yard-dart your mom is going to be just fine.Just listen to your heart, it will guide you to do what's right?
Both of you take care.
Dave
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advice needed--please respond
by lisaBObeesa inthis is a question my df mother would like me to post for her:.
would it be morally right to go back to the jws, even though she doesn't feel it is god's org?
she would do this in order to speak with her life long friends and her youngest daughter, all of whom are quite emotionally distraught due to her dfing.
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Lisa,
Life is full of little games and rules to play them. The JW's are masters at making rules to control their players. I think the number one thing your mom needs to keep in mind is her own personal priorities. If having to get reinstated to ease the mind of her loved ones and be able to talk to them again, then so be it. I have a good friend who got reinstated to go to his younger sister's wedding and ease the mental anguish of his grandmother. After the wedding he simply moved to another city close by and they have left him alone. None of the elders who reinstated him want to admit they got duped. I think it's pretty funny. My own mother rarely went out in service, she always seemed to have health problems and the elders left her alone. Even thought she is a devout witness I know she hated going out in service. She fooled them for years. The JW's are easy to fool, a little crying here and there and telling them what they want to hear is a fairly simple thing to do.
We all have to deal with feeling one way and reacting another. Most people do it on a daily basis in their secular jobs. The JW governing body as well as many guys at the top of the organization keep a tremendous amount of information from the rank and file. They are masters at deception. Giving a little back isn't going to do anything but make your mom happy. Her love for her family is the main priority. If she has to dance around a group of controlling zealots then that is what she will have to do. As long as she can keep a straight face and keep her main goal in mind she should do what ever she feels she needs to do. She knows her own heart and what she does to make her self happy is no one else's business.
Spirituality is in ones mind and heart, not in a specific religion. If she gets reinstated but does not believe all the garbage that goes along with it, then she is just playing the game smarter then the ones who came up with it. More power to her.
Dave