duns will holler at you guys later.
fark, keep your eyes open and your mind scopin'.
dave, please guard the bourbon for me.
Dan, sorry for not responding to this over the weekend. I had one of those weekends where I actually tried to have a life.
An exgirfriend from many years ago had some minor cosmetic surgery and wanted to show me her new brains. I of course remembered your lecture on weakness of the flesh and refused to look at them. You are quite the inspiration for me Dan. You are changing my life.
Your buddy,
Dave
PS: Ok, I lied about not looking and stuff. Im weak, pray for me.
hey all,.
i don't know if my karma is screwed up or what, because today just has not been my day.
first i got up this morning, logged on the board and the first post i read was that drivel from you know or who knows or whatever his/her name is.
I had an experience back in my door knocking days that made a strong impact on me and kept the rest of our congregation form ever coming back to this particular home. As I was standing at this guys front door and was a few seconds into my robot speech the guy stopped me and asked what it would take to have all us stupid JW's stop coming to his door. It stunned me for a few second and as I was about to ask him why he asked for the copy of the watchtower I had in my hand. He then walked over to a desk in his living room and grabbed a hunting knife. My service partner and I took a few steps back as the guy stepped out of his front door and held the watchtower up to the door molding outside his house. He then took the knife and stabbed the poor unsuspecting watchtower a few times and then stuck it to the molding with the knife. He looked at me and said "do you think you got the idea now pal?" I smiled at him and said "yep, loud and clear".
I found this guys message to be a very strong one and I made sure everyone else knew of his wishes. If you are not afraid to have a knife sticking out on the side of your front door and have your neighbors think you are some kind of paper hater you might want to try the knife in the watchtower trick.
It worked for me.
Dave
last night, i found myself wondering aloud about something i never thought i would consider: purchasing a gun.
previously, i had very strong anti-gun sentiments.
i felt, and still do to some extent, that freely available guns in this country are an immediate threat to children and add to the violent perception others have of americans.
Lark,
Its great to see that my sarcasm hasn't been misinterpreted by all. OK, lets get into it.
I own a gun and I know how to use it (I hate this statement). In my younger more macho years I was quite the marksman, I was a cop, guns are part of the whole indoctrination. I even have a first place shooting trophy (registered master with a hand gun) letting anyone who happens upon the dark corners of my closet to admire it and say oooooh. Iv even had the chance to partake in a little shoot'em up cowboys melodrama in the so called line of duty where I spent an all nighter sitting behind a tree with a semi automatic rifle pointed in my direction. It was quite a rush for a 21 year old kid.
I have strong opinions about guns and the people this country allows to carry them. I think semi automatic weapons that are so highly protected by the NRA are absurd and should be completely outlawed. This country doesn't allow a person to take an indy car out on the freeway because it is to high powered and can jeopardize the safety of the average driver but they will let some red neck hillbilly own a semi automatic weapon and because he got fired from his job licking stamps at the post office he can take his AK47 and blow the hell out of some daycare facility.
The right to bare arms is one thing, the right to allow a brain dead moron to own a semiautomatic weapon is another. Now the question arises, who is it that determines who is a brain dead moron or not. You got me on that one. Just as it is next to impossible to reverse the tobacco laws in this county it is also hard to tear the semi automatic guns out of the cold dead hands of their owners. Some things are just too hard to go back and reverse ie Columbus discovering America, Daniel Boon was a good guy and helped shape the infancy this country. What's a person to do?
It has always been a source of amazement to me that you have to read a book, practice driving for several months, take a written test plus a driving test to get a license to drive, but any idiot can buy a gun providing that he is of legal age and he hasn't yet been caught doing something stupid like committing a felony. It still pisses me off that I have to buy a license to catch a fish. Something is wrong here.
Getting back to guns. In this point and click world there has to be a few rules when it comes to devices that are specify designed to poke deep holes in living tissue. But since our gun toting forefathers use such devices to help shop for the families dinner it is impossible to look at such things as anything besides an ancient debet card at your local grocery store. Thus we are at the cross roads we now debate about. If an intelligent person with adequate scruples can own a dangerous weapon why can't a moron in the light of the theory of all men being created equal.
I don't know man, beats the shit out of me.
Dave
last night, i found myself wondering aloud about something i never thought i would consider: purchasing a gun.
previously, i had very strong anti-gun sentiments.
i felt, and still do to some extent, that freely available guns in this country are an immediate threat to children and add to the violent perception others have of americans.
Damn it Wassa, why in the world would you want to start a discussion about gun ownership? Not one heated thread on this entire board has ended up in one single person changing their mind about anything. All it does is get the people that are all ready pissed off at each other even more pissed. If you ever get the desire to shoot a gun you can drive down to Portland and shoot mine. It's a nice big 357 magnum and can drop an elephant with the proper round in it. You could get it out of your system and we can avoid another verbal blood bath.
Why don't you talk about peoples favorite vacations or favorite food or who on this board they would like to see naked, ya know, fun stuff. Why is it that the only threads that get a heavy participation are the ones where everyone ends up telling each other to fuck off. I hate to think the JW's who lurk on this board think we are all ready to kill each other.
I just don't understand it, chicks are weird.
Dave
last night, i found myself wondering aloud about something i never thought i would consider: purchasing a gun.
previously, i had very strong anti-gun sentiments.
i felt, and still do to some extent, that freely available guns in this country are an immediate threat to children and add to the violent perception others have of americans.
Seeker,
If I took your life how much do you think I could get for it?
If it's not much I could sell you to Wassa for target practice and save my own butt.
I agree with you, I would never want to kill anybody unless I really had to.
Don't pay any attention to BBoy, he's a break dancer and you know how violent those guys are.
Dave
i wanted to share an experience and see if any of had a similar expereince when you were a jw.
right before i started doubting, i had gone to "stars on ice" with an elders wife , we had dinner first and we ended up getting drunk.
smashed might be a better word choice.
Jurs,
Your problem was not taking the elder husband with you when you two got smashed. I spent may hours having the elders hang out at my house while we accidentally over served ourselves. Not once did any of them feel the need to confess to each other about our little "gatherings".
They were trying to prime me for the honor of becoming a ministerial servant. I just never seemed to be able to get my hours up enough to pass the test. I miss my semi reserved seat in the back room confessional / library.
The next time you feel like confessing something talk to your cat.
Dave
last night, i found myself wondering aloud about something i never thought i would consider: purchasing a gun.
previously, i had very strong anti-gun sentiments.
i felt, and still do to some extent, that freely available guns in this country are an immediate threat to children and add to the violent perception others have of americans.
Damn,...Sorry Wasa, no can do. I'm going to be at a woman haters club bomb making and target shooting seminar this weekend. Julie sent those pictures of you that she took on my back deck last week and I had them enlarged so I need to work all weekend painting the red bulls eyes on them.
Maybe another time.
Dave
continued:.
:::: conversely, if god declared that from now on marriage was a dead institution (new scrolls opened and all that), and men and women should be like bonobos and free have sex with whoever they pleased, what humans could properly tell him that he had set up an improper standard?
jw leaders and other pharisees?
Come on Fred you can do better than that. Turn off the Rug Rats movie and pay attention to what you are doing.
Now think about it and come back with a better slam than that. I know it's a stretch for you but it's the only way
you are ever going to learn how to play with the grown ups. Try putting more then a single thought together and
be a little creative.
I'm counting on you man. If you get good at this we could make a lot of fun of Alan F. He's a real brain geek and
I have to end up explaining all my jabs at him. I'll teach you Fred and when you grow up you can be a real smart ass
like me instead of just an ass like you are now.
Dave
this is a story appearing on abc's news website.. " http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/dailynews/religionconfession_010802.html.
i post it here since it relates to what elders could/should do in child abuse cases.. .
aa confession ruled confidential.
Alan,
I say we feed them some of Rilla's humus and kill them all!
Dave
continued:.
:::: conversely, if god declared that from now on marriage was a dead institution (new scrolls opened and all that), and men and women should be like bonobos and free have sex with whoever they pleased, what humans could properly tell him that he had set up an improper standard?
jw leaders and other pharisees?
Fred,
Do your parents know you are still up and using their computer?
